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re: Players who looked great with other stars and got exposed on their own

Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:36 am to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:36 am to
Roy Hibbert
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:42 am to
Desmond Howard
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 9:03 am to
Would Mike Hampton count? He was having All Star type career went to Colorado and the wheels feel off.

He claimed he signed with them for the "school system" and the reporters tore into him.
Posted by L5UT1ger
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 10:11 am to
Greg Jennings
Mike Wallace
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:01 am to
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And what niche is that? Must be infinitesimal, because he just spent the 2015 season playing like one of the worst Saints' defenders of all time, and that is really saying something.


Either very short zone corner or dealing with tall slower WRs. The Saints did him no favors by having him play pure man coverage without great safety help over the top.

You can legit go back to the threads when he was first signed and see Pats/Seahawks fans telling you guys he's good at what he does, but an insanely niche player. He also caused way too many penalties to ever be considered great.

Dudes also old, so he had lost any speed he previously had
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 11:03 am
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:04 am to
Too soon for Draymond Green?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71439 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:15 am to
Except Draymond went nuts in that game 7 and would have been the hero had they won?
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:41 am to
Matt Cassell
Posted by rilesrick
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:42 am to
Soon to be Harrison Barnes
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:23 pm to
Calling it now: Brock Osweiler
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:30 pm to
I loved TD but I was taking about guys that left the Broncos and failed.

And as great as TD was, he fell off a cliff after Elway retired mostly due to injuries but he never sniffed 1000 yards post elway.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:48 pm to
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Michael Jordan



The frick? He practically beat the Monstars by himself.
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:57 pm to
Kobe
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 12:59 pm to
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mostly due to injuries
It had everything to do with his injuries.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Amare Stoudemire was never as good as Steve Nash made him look.
I would argue his severe injuries were more crippling to his career



This-- having an elite PG certainly helped-- in the same way it helps Deandre Jordan and to a lesser extent Blake Griffin-- a guy who can get an athletic forward/center the ball in stride as they crash the rim is huge-- but even with Nash, Amare had like 3 or 4 more good years at best-- he wasn't even really injured again so much as his knee had a lifespan post-microfracture and was constantly deteriorating.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:48 am to
Mo Williams
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:49 am to
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still led the L in assists.




Meh. He is a stat chaser
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:53 am to
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Amare Stoudemire was never as good as Steve Nash made him look.




Well he was an mvp candidate his first year in NY, and then his knees failed him.

2010-11 season: 25.3pts, 1.9 blocks, 8.2 boards, on 50% shooting
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13535 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:58 am to
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Kobe Bryant

ETA: post Shaq, pre-Gasol was a #9 seed and a 1st round exit IIRC. Wasn't a contender




Interesting. So he lead the Lakers to the playoffs as a 9 seed? That's amazing in and of itself.

Smush Parker
Kwame Brown
Devean George
Slava Medevenko

Need I say more?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 8/23/16 at 12:58 am to
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Lebron James

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