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re: Perfect Game or Triple Crown

Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:47 am to
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:47 am to
quote:

TC by far...for one person in today's world to lead in avg. rbis and hrs is almost unbelievable. Too much diversity


It's 3 arbitrary counting stats, while it is very rare, that doesn't make it harder to accomplish. Plus RBIs are an opportunistic stat. You can't exactly "try" to lead that category.

Perfect game by far is harder. You have to be lights out for 27 straight batters. Because it happens more often than a triple crown doesn't make it any easier.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Throwing a perfect game against the 2012 Houston Astros is less amazing.


Regardless of their MLB or AAAA status, it's still a perfect game.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41171 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:53 am to
quote:

pitchers with perfect games

....
theres a whole lot of 'who is that' on that list


& every hitter that has won the triple crown since 1901 is in the HOF
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64031 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 8:56 am to
Triple crown

It does depend a lot on timing though. Not only does the player have to have a great year, he has to avoid someone going apeshit and really tearing up one particular stat.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141738 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 9:01 am to
I don't follow baseball. Are there no no-power spray hitters anymore? (that's what prevents TCs even when great hitters are playing)
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 9:18 am to
Not really. Because a guy who hits 330 but doesn't draw any walks and can't hit for power is actually an offensive negative. Guys with "empty" averages are going the way of the dinosaur.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28257 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 9:43 am to
quote:

There are 23 perfect games out of 202,500.


Kind of flawed logic. A batter has to play an entire season for a triple crown (or at least a good majority of a season).

A pitcher has ~30 chances a year for a perfect game. So over a 15-year career, he'll have about 450 shots to throw a perfect game. A batter with the same length career has 15 chances.
Posted by murphdaddy
Metairie
Member since Sep 2011
234 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:06 am to
Yeah a whole season vs. one game is what it comes down too... Statistically being the best in 3 of the major categories batting wise seems pretty tough to me
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41171 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:10 am to
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Because a guy who hits 330 but doesn't draw any walks and can't hit for power is actually an offensive negative.


unless he has a lot of speed
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Yeah a whole season vs. one game is what it comes down too


You can look at this as it's really easy to go 0-4 and still win the triple crown (relatively speaking in that i'm sure miggy had an 0-4 day this season) but you can't frick up a single thing and get a perfect game.

Not sure which i think is more impressive though. Probably a perfect game.
This post was edited on 10/4/12 at 10:54 am
Posted by Tiger in Detroit
The Bronx
Member since Sep 2003
2541 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

It's 3 arbitrary counting stats, while it is very rare, that doesn't make it harder to accomplish. Plus RBIs are an opportunistic stat. You can't exactly "try" to lead that category.

Perfect game by far is harder. You have to be lights out for 27 straight batters. Because it happens more often than a triple crown doesn't make it any easier.


Keith Law??? Is that you???
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Perfect Game or Triple Crown
whats harder to do.






Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13722 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:18 pm to
Obviously pitching a perfect game while hitting for the cycle is the hardest
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150583 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

but you can't frick up a single thing and get a perfect game.

Sure you can. You can hang that curve ball out over the plate and the batter can rip it. As long as your defense can make the play, you're good.

You can definitely frick up (to a decent degree) and still throw a perfect game.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Throwing a perfect game is amazing. Throwing a perfect game against the 2012 Houston Astros is less amazing.
Posted by LSUcdro
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2009
11126 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:05 pm to
Triple Crown

Season > Single Game


20 Strikeouts > Anything in baseball

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

You can definitely frick up (to a decent degree) and still throw a perfect game.


Yeah most perfect games and no hitters are a result of excellent defense. It's not like they stike out 27 batters. There are usually line drives caught and diving plays made.

Triple crown is damn near impossible these days with these HR numbers we have.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Keith Law??? Is that you???


Damnit. You caught me.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41171 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

20 Strikeouts > Anything in baseball


I've seen that happen 4 times, I've never seen anyone hit .400 (nor do I think I will)
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 10/4/12 at 1:18 pm to
I vote for 2 cycles in one game.
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