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re: Paul Skenes continues to dominate AAA - 6IP, 7Ks, 4H, 1BB as his ERA falls to 0.39
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:50 pm to RemouladeSawce
Posted on 5/1/24 at 5:50 pm to RemouladeSawce
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Gradually easing him in with several more AAA outings, giving him his first taste of the majors over the summer, and shutting him down early fall is 100% what they should be doing
Teams should just have these power pitchers start their season later than everyone else. There is no sense in pitching your best pitcher in April just to shut him down in the playoffs. You end up just wasting the player instead of protecting them.
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 6:13 pm to UKWildcats
Same. I’m a Cubs fan and it will almost be an automatic loss when he plays
Posted on 5/1/24 at 6:16 pm to slackster
quote:his 12.7 iVB is actually really bad, but it’s 100mph and -4.7 VAA so it doesn’t matter. Extension is also pretty bad, also doesn’t matter b/c 100. The splitter is a thing so he could have a 3rd pitch against righties. Overall, his velo and command is what makes him elite. I
Someone who knows more about this data than me can hopefully explain but Twitter says it’s pretty good
Jared Jones is Spencer Strider 2.0 so the Pirates, by this time next year, will have the best 1-2 punch in all of baseball.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:30 pm to SWLA92
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They are trying to manipulate his service time, to gain another year of team control b
quote:good to know that the mlb is just as retarded as every other sports league
Trying to make sure he doesn't get to count this year as service time.
The new cba made it so the top 2 finishers in Rookie of the Year in each league count the year as service time.
If he got called up now that would be possible if he was dominant enough
Posted on 5/5/24 at 5:43 pm to slackster
Prob had his worst start yet today. His ERA has skyrocketed up to 0.99 
He went 4 1/3, 2 runs, 3 hits, 2 walks, 4K
Interestingly he only threw 66 pitches. You would imagine Pitt would be trying to extend his pitch count each start like they had been doing and call him up once he’s been around 90-100 pitches
So a little strange he threw less pitches than last outing. Obviously could be a reason why…I’m just looking at box score
He went 4 1/3, 2 runs, 3 hits, 2 walks, 4K
Interestingly he only threw 66 pitches. You would imagine Pitt would be trying to extend his pitch count each start like they had been doing and call him up once he’s been around 90-100 pitches
So a little strange he threw less pitches than last outing. Obviously could be a reason why…I’m just looking at box score
Posted on 5/6/24 at 6:54 am to lsuson
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Same. I’m a Cubs fan and it will almost be an automatic loss when he plays
He will almost certainly be on a pitch restriction, so him going more than 5 or 6 innings would be highly unlikely. I'm a Cub fan too so best case scenario 0-0 after 5 or 6 and the Cubs get to their pen better than Pirates get to ours.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:00 am to Schmelly
Uhh nope
Posted on 5/6/24 at 7:46 am to Gorilla Ball
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Uhh nope
Riiiight. I keep forgetting about this place’s crystal ball into the inner workings of the Pirates front office
Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:07 am to 5 Deep
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Interestingly he only threw 66 pitches. You would imagine Pitt would be trying to extend his pitch count each start like they had been doing and call him up once he’s been around 90-100 pitches
It's actually pretty common with starting pitchers in the minors, the Cubs won't any of the pitchers in their system exceed 80 pitches, unless by more than a couple to finish the batter their facing but that would be very rare.
Pitchers don't pitch near the innings in high school and college they will see in a full season of pro ball so most all organizations limit their innings and pitch counts.
Kind of the prevailing thought is a pitcher should not be required to pitch more than 30 innings more than they had the previous year. So these young guys coming up will be ramped up slowly.
I doubt Skenes exceeds 5 innings his first few starts, and even less if his pitch count gets above 75....which is the most he's pitched in any start this year in the minors.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:05 am to Schmelly
Just google why skenes hasn’t been called up. It has to do with his rookie contract and his length he stays with the pirates.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:08 am to Gorilla Ball
That’s exactly right.
Posted on 5/6/24 at 11:33 am to Tiger Ugly
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Pitchers don't pitch near the innings in high school and college they will see in a full season of pro ball so most all organizations limit their innings and pitch counts. Kind of the prevailing thought is a pitcher should not be required to pitch more than 30 innings more than they had the previous year. So these young guys coming up will be ramped up slo
Yet pitchers keep blowing out and getting hurt. The teams don’t give a shite, they push these guys arms to the absolute limit and destroy them so they don’t have to pay them. There’s always more flamethrowers to take their place
Posted on 5/6/24 at 12:32 pm to Gorilla Ball
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Just google why skenes hasn’t been called up. It has to do with his rookie contract and his length he stays with the pirates.
Hasn't he already passed the service time threshold? I understood it to be 3 rotation cycles or 15 days, which he's surpassed by several weeks and several cycles now.
If that is correct then that's no longer the reason he's being kept down. The fact is it's VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY rare for rookies to start the year in the Majors and while that rookie service time stuff is a think it rarely affects folks right out of college or high school. 99.99% of players will legitimately have to develop in the minors.
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:02 am to Gorilla Ball
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Just google why skenes hasn’t been called up. It has to do with his rookie contract and his length he stays with the pirates.
Ohhhh Google knows lol. The only way him getting called up affects that is if he wins ROY. That’s been true since mid-April
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:04 am to Tiger Ugly
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Hasn't he already passed the service time threshold?
Yes, but you can’t tell that to the conspiracy theorists. He also just pitched on 4 days rest for the first time in his career
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:18 am to Gorilla Ball
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Just google why skenes hasn’t been called up. It has to do with his rookie contract and his length he stays with the pirates.
Going to the Braves game the 24th in a box from work. Any chance he plays?
Posted on 5/7/24 at 8:41 am to LB84
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Going to the Braves game the 24th in a box from work. Any chance he plays?
Decent chance he’s up by then. Can’t have more than a start or 2 left in AAA. Play? Just depends on the timing.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:08 pm to Gorilla Ball
Bumpity bump bump
Bumpity bump bump
Where’d all the ruhtards go?
Bumpity bump bump
Where’d all the ruhtards go?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 6:29 am to Schmelly
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Yes, but you can’t tell that to the conspiracy theorists. He also just pitched on 4 days rest for the first time in his career
And he'll be on a pitch restriction being as he's never pitched more than 75 pitches in a game in the minors, and mostly less than that, they won't let him pitch much more than that if any more. His first start may go 5 innings.
Good news is for Skenes fans is the Cubs are struggling at the plate now and none of their hitters have ever seen a pitch from Skenes before, so that's to his advantage.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 3:05 pm to Tiger Ugly
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Good news is for Skenes fans is the Cubs are struggling at the plate now and none of their hitters have ever seen a pitch from Skenes before, so that's to his advantage.
But Belli & Suzuki are back. We bout to give Skenes a rude greeting! Wooo
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