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Opinion: college athletes who received improper benefits in the past that are now legal
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:02 pm
I believe these athletes and their football programs should have their records expunged, and they should get their titles, records, statistics, etc. back. Examples are USC with Reggie Bush and LSU with Vadal Alexander. USC should get their 2004 national championship and all their wins back. Reggie Bush should get his Heisman trophy back. LSU should get all their wins back from when Vadal Alexander was on the team.
This should be treated in the same way that Congress bills have suggested that previous marijuana users be treated. If it’s not illegal anymore, offenders who smoked it should be released from jail and have their criminal records expunged.
The NCAA should treat the receipt of improper benefits the same way.
This should be treated in the same way that Congress bills have suggested that previous marijuana users be treated. If it’s not illegal anymore, offenders who smoked it should be released from jail and have their criminal records expunged.
The NCAA should treat the receipt of improper benefits the same way.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 2:03 pm
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:03 pm to cbree88
First downvote because revisionist history works so well.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:04 pm to Rouge
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First downvote because revisionist history works so well.
Wrong. Downvote for you
The revisionist history is the NCAA taking the records away and vacating wins in the first place. It’s so stupid.
This would just be restoring what was there originally.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:04 pm to cbree88
You realize that all that stuff is still illegal, don’t you???
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:05 pm to cbree88
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The revisionist history is the NCAA taking the records away in the first place. This would just be restoring what was there originally.
It was illegal at the time. What am I missing?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:06 pm to cbree88
That’s not how rules work.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:08 pm to RummelTiger
I love how OP is downvoting every post that disagrees with him.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:09 pm to cbree88
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The revisionist history is the NCAA taking the records away and vacating wins in the first place. It’s so stupid.
This. Fines or other penalties like sanctions, ok. But just rewriting history like they do is asinine.
I know what I watched those years. Reggie Bush was one of the most dynamic and best college players EVER and deserved the Heisman. Taking the award away doesn’t take away the talent or great season he had, or mean he wasn’t the he best that year. He was and always will be.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:10 pm to Starchild
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Reggie Bush was one of the most dynamic and best college players EVER and deserved the Heisman. Taking the award away doesn’t take away the talent or great season he had
The point is that Reggie Bush should not have been playing in the first place. He would have been ineligible because of taking the impermissible benefits.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:23 pm to Rouge
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The point is that Reggie Bush should not have been playing in the first place. He would have been ineligible because of taking the impermissible benefits.
Nobody fricking cares but the vendetta of the head of the NCAA at the time...who's own former University of Miami as AD came under fire under his leadership but got a slap on the wrist.
Reggie took money from sports agents, so did Billy Cannon.
And "vacating wins" is the dumbest penalty in sports. Yeah sure, we'll all be Men In Black and erase our memory.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:25 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Nobody fricking cares but the vendetta of the head of the NCAA at the time...who's own former University of Miami as AD came under fire under his leadership. Reggie took money from sports agents, so did Billy Canon. And "vacating wins" is the dumbest penalty in sports. Yeah sure, we'll all be Men In Black and erase our memory.
Yep. This guy gets it.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:25 pm to Starchild
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This. Fines or other penalties like sanctions, ok. But just rewriting history like they do is asinine.
I completely agree
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:29 pm to cbree88
They were punished for breaking the rules.
Just because the rules have changed now doesn't mean that they didn't break the rules
Just because the rules have changed now doesn't mean that they didn't break the rules
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:37 pm to cbree88
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I believe these athletes and their football programs should have their records expunged, and they should get their titles, records, statistics, etc. back
rules in sports are constantly changing/evolving.
and we don't go and retroactive change the outcomes or results or even stats of anything that happened before the rules changes.
we don't add Pistol's freshman stats (or calculate his totals with a 3 point line)
we don't add Barry Sanders' bowl stats to his already ridiculous season totals.
you play according to rules in place at the time you play.
this is just another example of that.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:38 pm to Rouge
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The point is that Reggie Bush should not have been playing in the first place. He would have been ineligible because of taking the impermissible benefits.
I understand what happened, but the retroactive penalties have still never made sense.
They didn’t catch it then, so Reggie was eligible and he did play. It happened, it’s history. If they didn’t want that to be the case, maybe the NCAA should do their job better when it mattered.
I don’t care if he was given $100 billion, it didn’t impact his talent or play on the field one iota. If it wasn’t USC, he’d have still been the best player in the country on another team. And now the thing he was deemed ineligible for is legal, making this even more dumb.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:41 pm to cbree88
It’s worth leaving it the way it is just to continue to see Manzel whine about it.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:09 pm to cbree88
It was illegal when they did it.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:32 pm to cbree88
These people, especially USC, cheated and they knew they were cheating. They cheated other teams from fair outcomes. You can't just reward them for that.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:08 pm to UncleRuckus
It wasn’t illegal. It was against NCAA rules. That’s a big difference.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 4:32 pm to cbree88
Regardless of whether you agree with the rules, those players and schools knowingly broke them.
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