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re: One of the best takes on today's ESPN layoffs
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:00 pm to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:00 pm to Keys Open Doors
The only way to make things better is to fire the real journalists and keep the liberal sports analysts.
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:01 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:I'd have to agree with this.
it has just shifted to places like SBnation SB's CFB writers are so much better than ESPNs
Also, I think it'll take a bit longer for the whole PPV/Streaming sports angle to take affect. Folks in my age range 20-34 won't have a problem with this. Our parents on the other hand are a different story.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:02 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
SB's CFB writers are so much better than ESPNs
Shutdown Fullcast and EDSBS are to college football what Simmons used to be to the rest of sports back when he was young and hungry.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:03 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
has just shifted to places like SBnation
SB's CFB writers are so much better than ESPNs
Fair enough, but the TV model is dead.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:04 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
ESPN essentially admits with these layoffs that they are done with journalism.
Outside of their sporting event broadcasts, ESPN has been nothing but TMZ Sports gossip and extreme left wing political propaganda for at least a decade.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:08 pm to IAmReality
quote:That's pretty much every sports media program in social media area. This isn't just a "ESPN thing".
Outside of their sporting event broadcasts, ESPN has been nothing but TMZ Sports gossip
quote:
extreme left wing political propaganda for at least a decade.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:33 pm to slackster
quote:
Loud, controversial, and often unfounded takes are all the rage today. Turn on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, etc. and it is truly embarrassing, but those programs are increasing their viewership, something ESPN needs desperately. They're just trying to do what seems to be working elsewhere
I'm afraid you're right, but I think ESPN should try to stay in their lane if they want this format to work for them.
I haven't seen SC6, but the marketing claimed they were going to discuss news and social issues, in addition to sports. Let the audience find that content elsewhere if they want it and stick to sports. I'm not turning on FOX News to hear Tucker Carlson and Brit Hume debate the NBA playoffs.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:36 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
The 24 hour news cycle has ruined our country. Period. We don't need 24 straight hours of bs. There is so much ubiquitous content that none of it matters. Significant news has no weight because it is part of the vast sea of crap
Yeah. This was sooooo much better
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:05 pm to Keys Open Doors
I feel for those who lost their jobs... Its always sad when this happens... But ESPN did this to themselves and the people working there had to know what was going on...
ESPN has priced itself out of business... Times have changed ALOT over the last 5-10 years... Yet ESPN KNEW the changes in tech was coming and STILL wanted to pay for the rights to all these broadcasts... ESPN was THE shite in the 80's and early 90's.. But times have changed and they thought they could take over the sports TV market and it failed miserably....
And Ill end by saying this.... The thought of keeping Mike Greenberg AND giving him Millions of $ a year to spout his garbage when they let others go who could be WAY WAY better than him at what he does shows just how stupid ESPN is..........
ESPN has priced itself out of business... Times have changed ALOT over the last 5-10 years... Yet ESPN KNEW the changes in tech was coming and STILL wanted to pay for the rights to all these broadcasts... ESPN was THE shite in the 80's and early 90's.. But times have changed and they thought they could take over the sports TV market and it failed miserably....
And Ill end by saying this.... The thought of keeping Mike Greenberg AND giving him Millions of $ a year to spout his garbage when they let others go who could be WAY WAY better than him at what he does shows just how stupid ESPN is..........
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:16 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:More than half of cable subscribers would be willing to save $8/month to not have ESPN as part of their cable package.
According to The Googles, they charge 7 bucks per month for cable. They can't get 20 bucks on their own? Even if only half the people go for it, they're still in great shape.
I think that number paying $20 would be more like 10-20, maybe 25% max being willing to pay $20/month.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:22 pm to IAmReality
quote:Wow, you missed the boat badly on this one if you believe that.
They could replace all their non-sporting event programming with reruns of classic sporting events and their ratings and reputation would only go up.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:30 pm to Keys Open Doors
quote:
ESPN has been hemorrhaging subscribers for some time now as a result of cord-cutting, which hurts them much more than other networks given that they charge vastly higher carriage fees.
I didnt cut the cord b/c of ESPN. I did b/c of the 200 other channels. If ESPN offered a base package for streaming, and added packages for something like the sec, or big 10 or acc, I'd subscribe to that.
And if a cable company would offer just a sports package that would be locals, ESPN, fox sports, NBC, the nfl/nba/mlb/golf channels, Turner sports, I'd subscribe to that.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:47 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but why wouldn't they offer a standalone produce for ESPN? Is it as simple as they cable companies have it in their contract that ESPN can't do that?
I didnt cut the cord b/c of ESPN. I did b/c of the 200 other channels. If ESPN offered a base package for streaming, and added packages for something like the sec, or big 10 or acc, I'd subscribe to that.
And if a cable company would offer just a sports package that would be locals, ESPN, fox sports, NBC, the nfl/nba/mlb/golf channels, Turner sports, I'd subscribe to that.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:57 pm to shel311
quote:
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but why wouldn't they offer a standalone produce for ESPN? Is it as simple as they cable companies have it in their contract that ESPN can't do that?
Agreed, if any cable or satellite company offered this type of package people would flock to it. Give me a package that offers local channels, FS1, FS2, ESPN, ESPN 2, NBCSN, NFL/NBA/MLB. Price it around $30/month and I would sign up for it in a second.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 8:59 pm to Keys Open Doors
So basically what Clay Travis has been saying for a year? frick Deadspin.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:09 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
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perhaps it will find a way to offload deals it can no longer afford
Bye bye Longhorn Network.[/quote
If people are continually truly cord-cutting...
According to Sports Business Journal, LHN asked for 40 cents per subscriber when it sought initial distribution, and SECN asked for $1.30.
So ESPN-SEC, the long-running partnership and advocate has been profitable - but the last deal isn't working out like they hoped..and this is a blip in terms of the NFL. They'd have to renegotiate because they ain't making that money anymore with the SEC, cord-cutting and public backlash against the SEC for the last few years.
On a per-school basis, the Big Ten does best with $26.5 million per member school from TV deals, tourney play and bowls. But right on the Big Ten's tail is the Big 12, which collected $26.2 million per member school from those three sources. Further back are the Pac-12 ($24.9 million), ACC ($21.8 million) and ESPN-SEC ($19.4 million).
perhaps it will find a way to offload deals it can no longer afford
Bye bye Longhorn Network.[/quote
If people are continually truly cord-cutting...
According to Sports Business Journal, LHN asked for 40 cents per subscriber when it sought initial distribution, and SECN asked for $1.30.
So ESPN-SEC, the long-running partnership and advocate has been profitable - but the last deal isn't working out like they hoped..and this is a blip in terms of the NFL. They'd have to renegotiate because they ain't making that money anymore with the SEC, cord-cutting and public backlash against the SEC for the last few years.
On a per-school basis, the Big Ten does best with $26.5 million per member school from TV deals, tourney play and bowls. But right on the Big Ten's tail is the Big 12, which collected $26.2 million per member school from those three sources. Further back are the Pac-12 ($24.9 million), ACC ($21.8 million) and ESPN-SEC ($19.4 million).
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:23 pm to Fun Bunch
Horse racing has been ahead of this shite for almost 10 years now.
You don't even have to have a TV to stream horse racing you can stream HRTV2 / TVG which are on dish / directv / comcast directly from tvg.com for about 90 dollars a year or 9 dollars a month. it's a live feed of the TV station. You could do this as early as 2008.
It's not an idea solution for someone as hardcore as me as i need to see post parades and shite and they will cut to a race like 2 mins before it starts but you can't beat it
ESPN is going to ciest to exist in 10 years. They can't afford their NFL or NBA contracts and once those goes, college sports goes. I wonder what will happen to the SEC network
You don't even have to have a TV to stream horse racing you can stream HRTV2 / TVG which are on dish / directv / comcast directly from tvg.com for about 90 dollars a year or 9 dollars a month. it's a live feed of the TV station. You could do this as early as 2008.
It's not an idea solution for someone as hardcore as me as i need to see post parades and shite and they will cut to a race like 2 mins before it starts but you can't beat it
ESPN is going to ciest to exist in 10 years. They can't afford their NFL or NBA contracts and once those goes, college sports goes. I wonder what will happen to the SEC network
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:06 pm to vengeanceofrain
Basically today was a big show for Disney Execs and stockholders. The expense savings by the layoffs will be negligible in the big picture. ESPN Execs were ordered to cut expenses and they have but they haven't faced the real cuts that will be coming. No upper management employees were cut today, none
Travel
Facilities
Operations
Personnel
Can all be cut to show adherence to policy and progress by leadership but the really tough decisions will come when live sports renewals come up and ESPN starts to shed some of their programming partnerships.
Allow some of that programming to slip away and you weaken the ESPN brand while legitimizing competitors.
Or continue down the overspending path and see your brand erode by losing profits. One of these will result in upper management shakeups, you can see what direction Skipper et al have plans for on the future
Travel
Facilities
Operations
Personnel
Can all be cut to show adherence to policy and progress by leadership but the really tough decisions will come when live sports renewals come up and ESPN starts to shed some of their programming partnerships.
Allow some of that programming to slip away and you weaken the ESPN brand while legitimizing competitors.
Or continue down the overspending path and see your brand erode by losing profits. One of these will result in upper management shakeups, you can see what direction Skipper et al have plans for on the future
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:24 pm to supatigah
30 for 30: The ESPN story
What if I told you the network that started it all would ultimately be doomed?
What if I told you the network that started it all would ultimately be doomed?
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:58 pm to AnarchySupporter
quote:I have that for $40 with Playstation Vue. Mostly.
Agreed, if any cable or satellite company offered this type of package people would flock to it. Give me a package that offers local channels, FS1, FS2, ESPN, ESPN 2, NBCSN, NFL/NBA/MLB. Price it around $30/month and I would sign up for it in a second.
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