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re: Oklahoma St or Baylor considered a powerhouse?
Posted on 12/20/13 at 12:37 pm to Froman
Posted on 12/20/13 at 12:37 pm to Froman
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Oklahoma State is legit. They've been decent for five or six years now.
That doesn't make them a powerhouse. They need BCS appearances and consistent recruiting before they can be considered a powerhouse.
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Posted on 12/20/13 at 1:04 pm to BlueIndian420
No. I don't consider South Carolina or Clemson to be powerhouse programs and both are above OkState and Baylor.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 1:17 pm to CockRocket
There are only like 5 or 6 true power houses in college football. Baylor is one of the worst programs historically of all BCS teams and OSU has just been mediocre.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 1:18 pm to CockRocket
I think Okie State is ahead of South Carolina. I'm pretty sure the Gamecocks have never even won their conference.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 1:30 pm to Sevendust912
Yeah but SEC and shite
Posted on 12/20/13 at 1:35 pm to JimMorrison
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Yeah but SEC and shite
Meh. Oklahoma State is better in almost every aspect. More Bowls, better bowl win %, more heisman winners, more all-americans, more conference titles, more BCS games and wins.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:17 pm to Sevendust912
quote:Let's not get off track here, neither program has a particularly good history, but right now, USC is certaintly a better program than OkState. Neither are powerhouses though.
Meh. Oklahoma State is better in almost every aspect. More Bowls, better bowl win %, more heisman winners, more all-americans, more conference titles, more BCS games and wins.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:22 pm to CockRocket
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but right now, USC is certaintly a better program than OkState
How?
If you are looking at just this year, they have the same record and both teams have a bad loss and a top 10 win. If they met on a neutral field this year, the spread would probably be a pick em.
This post was edited on 12/20/13 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:38 pm to BlueIndian420
I guess you could be a powerhouse for just a year right? A team could be "the powerhouse" team in 2014 I guess. That said I don't think either is there yet, although Oklahoma State might be getting closer.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:40 pm to Swagga
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I don't consider either a powerhouse.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:44 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I guess you could be a powerhouse for just a year right? A team could be "the powerhouse" team in 2014 I guess. That said I don't think either is there yet, although Oklahoma State might be getting closer.
Is it possible to be a powerhouse when your record against your biggest rival is 17-84?
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:52 pm to Sevendust912
honestly dude I'm not sure what you are arguing. Neither school has much history but OSU has one Top 10 finish is the last 30 years. USCe is on a run of 3 straight. It's not really much of a discussion. I don't think either school would be considered a current powerhouse, but if you had to pick one, it would undoubtedly be USCe.
Also, USCe was a favorite on the road vs Mizzou (and won). OSU is a dog in Jerryworld. So I think you're mistaken if you think it would be a pick this year. My guess is USCe -3.5 or so.
Also, USCe was a favorite on the road vs Mizzou (and won). OSU is a dog in Jerryworld. So I think you're mistaken if you think it would be a pick this year. My guess is USCe -3.5 or so.
Posted on 12/20/13 at 2:58 pm to tmc94
OSU/Mizzou spread is 1. Basically a pick em. Actually, you are right that it is a pretty stupid argument. I think USCe and oSu are pretty much on the exact same level as a program. Each has their case to argue. USC - 3 straight top 10 finishes. OSU -2011 conference title and BCS win.
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