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OFFICIAL PSU-Sandusky Thread -- NYT reporting JoPa on way out soon

Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:05 am
Posted by Ice Cold
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:05 am
Keep discussion in here. Other threads will be deleted or anchored.

11/8 -- Penn State Said to be Planning Paterno’s Exit Amid Scandal

11/8 -- PSU weekly press conference canceled today.

Grand jury presentment

Sandusky visited PSU last week

MSB: Perfect Case in this Article for Why Joe Paterno should resign/be fired

MSB: How can McQueary live with himself

This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 11:18 am
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:06 am to
i'll just start by saying frick joe paterno.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:06 am to
/concur. That other thread was disturbing, imo.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54137 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:06 am to
A quick and only partial summary:

quote:

There was an allegation made in 1998 about Sandusky fondling a kid in the shower. It was investigated by university police, but no charges were brought.

Sandusky surprisingly retired in 1999.

He continued to stay close to the program and use the facilities to bring children to games and practices.

In 2002, he was seen sodomizing a child in the locker room by McQueary, the red headed PSU assitant.

McQueary left the locker room called his dad and then told Paterno about it the next day.

Paterno waited another day to tell his AD and a school VP.

They took Sandusky's keys away and told him no more kids at the facilities, but no one alerted police.

Sandusky continued to run football camps for boys that were associated with PSU.

Sandusky allegedly continued to bring children to PSU practices and games.

Sandusky allegedly was working out at the PSU facilities as recently as last week.


ETA: Timeline

quote:

Here is a timeline of events outlined in a 23-page grand jury report.

1994 or 1995: A boy identified only as Victim 6 meets Mr. Sandusky at a picnic sponsored by The Second Mile when he was 7 or 8.

1994: Meets Victim 7, who is 10. Over the next couple of years, there is shared showering and cuddling when the boy stayed at Mr. Sandusky's home.

1995 or 1996: Victim 5, age 7 or 8, meets Mr. Sandusky through The Second Mile. He says that later, sometime between 1996 and 1998, Mr. Sandusky pins him against a shower wall and places the boy's hand on his penis.

1996 or 1997: Victim 4, age 12 or 13, has indecent contacts with Mr. Sandusky. This victim became a fixture in the Sandusky household and attended many football events over the years. Either before or after alleged sexual assaults, the victim receives expensive gifts from Mr. Sandusky.

1998: Victim 6, age 11, is taken to a locker room in the Penn State football facility, and Mr. Sandusky showers with him, giving him a bear hug. When he was dropped off at home, the boy's mother learns about the shower and contacts university police. A detective listens in on two phone conversations with the mother and Mr. Sandusky on May 13, 1998, and May 19, 1998. Mr. Sandusky admits to the joint showering.

June 1, 1998: State Department of Public Welfare investigator and the university police detective interview Mr. Sandusky. He said he would not shower with children again.

May 1999: PSU football coach Joe Paterno tells Mr. Sandusky he will not be the next head coach at PSU. This precedes Mr. Sandusky's retirement.

Summer 2000: Victim 3, between 7th and 8th grade at the time, meets Mr. Sandusky. He claims his genitals are touched and there are bear hugs in the shower.

Fall 2000: A janitor sees Mr. Sandusky in the shower at the PSU football complex with Victim 8. The boy was pinned against the wall while Mr. Sandusky performed a sex act on him. The janitor tells other janitorial staff and his boss. His supervisor tells him how to make an official report. Such a report is never made; there is discussion among janitorial staff of concern about their jobs if they report the incident.

March 1, 2002: A Penn State football graduate assistant, whose name is not in the presentment but who since has been identified as Mike McQueary, now the team's wide receiver coach and recruiting coordinator, witnesses Mr. Sandusky having sex with Victim 2 in the shower at the Lasch Football Building.

March 2, 2002: Mr. McQueary reports what he saw to Mr. Paterno.

March 3, 2002: Mr. Paterno contacts the PSU athletic director, Tim Curley, his immediate supervisor.

Mid-March 2002: Mr. McQueary meets with Mr. Curley and Gary Schultz, senior vice president for finance and business.

Late March or early April 2002: Mr. McQueary hears back from Mr. Curley that Mr. Sandusky's keys to the locker room were taken away and the incident had been reported to The Second Mile. Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz said PSU president Graham Spanier was told that an incident had occurred in the shower but was not given the full details initially reported by Mr. McQueary.

2005 or 2006: Victim 1 meets Mr. Sandusky. In 2007, they start spending time together during the track season at the boy's high school, with the boy staying overnight at Mr. Sandusky's residence in State College, during which sexual activity occurred. Mr. Sandusky gave the boy expensive gifts.

2006 or 2007: A wrestling coach at a Clinton County elementary school enters a weight room at school and finds Victim 1 and Mr. Sandusky lying on their sides in physical contact.

Throughout 2007 and 2008: Mr. Sandusky performed a sex act more than 20 times on Victim 1.

Spring 2008: Victim 1 terminates contact with Mr. Sandusky while a freshman at Central Mountain High School in Clinton County.

Later in 2008: Victim 1's mother contacted the school, which barred Mr. Sandusky from the school and reported the incident to police.

Between January 2008 and July 2009: There were 57 calls from Mr. Sandusky's cell phone to Victim 1's home phone.

September 2010: Mr. Sandusky retires from The Second Mile.

December 2010: Mr. McQueary testifies before grand jury.

Jan. 12, 2011: Mr. Curley and Mr. Schultz testify before grand jury.

Nov. 4, 2011: Charges filed against Mr. Sandusky related to sexual abuse of eight boys, and against Mr. Curley and Mr. Shultz for lying to the grand jury and failing to report the incidents to the proper authorities.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 2:07 pm
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:07 am to
quote:

i'll just start by saying frick joe paterno and that grad assistant.


FIFY
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
11660 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:07 am to
time to clean house at Penn State

anyone who knew anything needs to go
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:08 am to
Say it ain't so Joe? Happy valley just turned into Valley of the _________. Fill in the blank.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113959 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:08 am to
I have casually kept up with this, but what I don't understand is why is JoePa taking so much heat for this? Didn't he report it once he knew about it? Or did he try to "sweep it under the table"?
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Ice Cold





Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:08 am to
ah shite...Ice Cold is here


<<<<~~~~~ will now be on my best behavior
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:08 am to
good idea
Posted by classictiger
Member since Mar 2007
5795 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:08 am to
Firs this situation was handled as poorly as possible by PSU officials.

Second, as the story has come to light, this situation has been handled as poorly as possible by PSU officials.

The inmates are running the asylum.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71637 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to
So Matt Millen on ESPN just said Paterno couldn't make decisions above his head. Are you shitting me?
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am
Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to
Penn St. is going to start sucking like Indiana!
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38123 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to
quote:

but what I don't understand is why is JoePa taking so much heat for this? Didn't he report it once he knew about it?


Would you be able to live with yourself if all you did was tell your boss about this? And continued to let this guy walk?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to
I hope we have one celebratory LSU WINS THE NAT'L CHAMPIONSHIP thread too.
Posted by evil cockroach
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Member since Nov 2007
7467 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to
Joe Pa is out Saban is in....
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
44108 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:09 am to
Sicks fricks created and kept secret an evil operation of vile and heinous acts for decades.

A charity, and on school campus? This is gonna get reaalll ugly
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54137 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Didn't he report it once he knew about it?
He was told a 10 year old was raped by a grown man in his locker room. He reported to his AD and then did nothing else about it, while that rapist showed up to his practices and games, used the team's facilities and ran football camps for kids under the PSU flag.
Posted by classictiger
Member since Mar 2007
5795 posts
Posted on 11/8/11 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Valley of the _________.


F***'d!!!
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