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NFL players have to become more theatrical to combat corrupt officiating
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:20 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:20 am
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NBA players going to start offering classes how to draw flags from the corrupt as officiating. If they aren't going to throw it, you might as well win an oscar for selling it and trying.
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For the second time in four nights, a team trailing an NFL game by the score of 16-3 generated a pair of touchdowns with less than 3:30 on the clock to win, 17-16. For the second time in four nights, uncalled holding fouls helped the effort.
On Monday night, it was Buccaneers left tackle Donovan Smith. On Thursday night, it was Rams right tackle Rob Havenstein.
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Also, the Raiders weren’t complaining nearly enough about it — same as the Saints weren’t on Monday night.
That’s really the lesson here. Whether it’s incompetence or a subconscious desire by the officials to have two-score games get and stay interesting late (or even a Tim Donaghy-type situation, which cannot be completely disregarded given the proliferation of legalized gambling — and we’re definitely not accusing any of the officials from either game of being corrupt), the team on the wrong side of uncalled holding needs to be making it known, loudly and clearly, that holding clearly is happening.
NBA players going to start offering classes how to draw flags from the corrupt as officiating. If they aren't going to throw it, you might as well win an oscar for selling it and trying.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 8:21 am
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Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:23 am to Chad504boy
Holding happens on every play. The question is if it directly affects the play at the POA or is it on the opposite side of the play and has no bearing.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:24 am to Chad504boy
Football, from the NFL down to Jr High ball, has a terrible problem officiating itself. Instead of the refs being teachers out there, for younger players, they perpetuate the ‘if I don’t call it it’s not a foul’ mindset. Players have been rewarded, since they were little, for breaking the rules and playing dirty…way too late now.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 8:28 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:26 am to Chad504boy
quote:This is definitely a new phenomenon we've never seen before in football.
uncalled holding fouls
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:29 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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The question is if it directly affects the play at the POA or is it on the opposite side of the play and has no bearing.
No its not the question at all. Penalties are constantly called on inconsequential sides or parts of a play.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:32 am to Chad504boy
The fact that refs cannot be criticized without retribution is also the problem. They don’t have to care.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:34 am to Chad504boy
I always thought that a WR can get a PI flag by stop during his deep route and letting the db run into them before the ball reaches them. It 100% PI by the refs. Surprised Belichek didn’t take advantage of this yet.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:39 am to Jizzy08
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The fact that refs cannot be criticized without retribution is also the problem.
This is a major problem in every sport. They are above criticism and they are never punished with anything more than a slap on the wrist.
It looks like a really hard job, but the lack of accountability and transparency with NFL refs and MLB umps is really alarming to me.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:41 am to Chad504boy
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Penalties are constantly called on inconsequential sides or parts of a play.
And those are the flags that need to stay in pockets.
Now if it's a takedown, that's different. That has to be called.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:41 am to Chad504boy
Meh. The players have to know they are in rigged games.
Besides, holding is one of those calls refs can use to tilt a game at any moment. All it takes is one bad holding call to kill a drive and take away a score. Best time to do it is if a team that you don't want to score converts a long, key third down play. Call holding and kill the drive.
It is so easy to rig a game now, especially since the NFL and now the SEC have moved to making instant replay pointless. That's when the sport really lost me. Literally no point in instant replay when they are just going to tell you what you just saw at 45 different angles really didn't happen. That's some Joe Biden type shite there.
Besides, holding is one of those calls refs can use to tilt a game at any moment. All it takes is one bad holding call to kill a drive and take away a score. Best time to do it is if a team that you don't want to score converts a long, key third down play. Call holding and kill the drive.
It is so easy to rig a game now, especially since the NFL and now the SEC have moved to making instant replay pointless. That's when the sport really lost me. Literally no point in instant replay when they are just going to tell you what you just saw at 45 different angles really didn't happen. That's some Joe Biden type shite there.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:41 am to VADawg
They are evaluated every week.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:43 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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They are evaluated every week.
This doesn't mean anything. Let's be honest here. Sure, they may not get a postseason assignment, but they are well paid and in zero danger of losing their jobs. Angel Hernandez is still employed.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:46 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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They are evaluated every week.
Means absolutely ZERO. The fact that high profile firings don't happen in any sport with officials tells you all you need to know. Combine that with the "entertainment" clause protection, and it amazes me that people STILL believe this stuff isn't rigged. It is at the point now where the top two football leagues in America, the NFL and SEC, don't even hide it any longer. It is to the point it has become almost predictable what is going to happen, depending on what teams are playing.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:48 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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And those are the flags that need to stay in pockets.
Now if it's a takedown, that's different. That has to be called.
All you can ask for is consistency in any means of how a game is called. what's a flag for the new orleans saints shold be a flag for the nfl rams. what's a flag in the 2nd quarter should be a flag in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:49 am to VADawg
If you knew what entails NFL and even NCAA officials evals, you would feel differently. Trust me on this. They tear you down then tear you down more.
You are right about it not being an easy job and it's not for everyone.
And let's quit comparing MLB umps to NFL officials. MLB umps are full-time employees who are backed by a union, thus why a guy who sucks like Angel Hernandez is still employed.
NFL officials are part-time employees who have full-time jobs and do not have a union backing their every move.
You are right about it not being an easy job and it's not for everyone.
And let's quit comparing MLB umps to NFL officials. MLB umps are full-time employees who are backed by a union, thus why a guy who sucks like Angel Hernandez is still employed.
NFL officials are part-time employees who have full-time jobs and do not have a union backing their every move.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:49 am to VADawg
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It looks like a really hard job, but the lack of accountability and transparency with NFL refs and MLB umps is really alarming to me.
Accountability?
Transparency?
Alarming?
What is this? A presidential administration?
The NFL, MLB, and their respective referees and umpires do not owe you, the fan, anything whatsoever.
It's a product and their job is to maximize profits for their owners. End of discussion.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 8:50 am
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:50 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Means absolutely ZERO
If you knew what entails NFL and even NCAA officials evals, you would feel differently.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:50 am to Chad504boy
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All you can ask for is consistency in any means of how a game is called. what's a flag for the new orleans saints shold be a flag for the nfl rams. what's a flag in the 2nd quarter should be a flag in the 4th quarter.
Agreed. If's a strike for them it ought to be a strike for us.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:54 am to Chad504boy
"Leave the minnows, get the whales."
That's a quote that our #1B white hat says before every game.
You can be consistently not calling PI all game but if a DB has a hold of a receiver's arm and hooks him and disrupts his route and keeps him from a completion late in the 4Q that has to be called or you won't be calling the following week.
It takes just as much or more courage to make the big call then a no-call.
That's a quote that our #1B white hat says before every game.
You can be consistently not calling PI all game but if a DB has a hold of a receiver's arm and hooks him and disrupts his route and keeps him from a completion late in the 4Q that has to be called or you won't be calling the following week.
It takes just as much or more courage to make the big call then a no-call.
Posted on 12/9/22 at 8:55 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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You can be consistently not calling PI all game but if a DB has a hold of a receiver's arm and hooks him and disrupts his route and keeps him from a completion late in the 4Q that has to be called or you won't be calling the following week.
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