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re: NBA Thread 3/25: Dwight Howard Returns
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:No. I want you to provide evidence for you assertions.
You're intentionally mucking it up just for the sake of arguing.
quote:Your point is clear, your evidence is not.
The point is clear.
quote:You are making a conclusion based on an error of conditional probability.
A higher PER doesn't always make the TEAM better
quote:Another conclusion based on an error of conditional probability.
And in fact a player being less efficient by the definition of PER can help a team.
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:38 pm to Boomshockalocka
You're an antagonistic douchebag, but I actually agree with you on a few points. However, the biggest negative to Davis has been his ability to actually stay on the court, not what happens when he's on it. Your favorite & "most predictive" WS stat rates Davis higher than Harden when he's on the court. Efficiency & counting stats have him as good as any player in the league when he's there.
The Pels don't win bc we have players not fit to be on the court together and a coach who shouldn't be a HC, both of which have nothing to do with Davis.
The Pels don't win bc we have players not fit to be on the court together and a coach who shouldn't be a HC, both of which have nothing to do with Davis.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:41 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:It's not unreasonable, it's just an unfounded assumption that should not presented as an absolute truth.
And considering Davis' legendary PER, it isn't unreasonable to conclude that the team could be better if it went down some.
quote:Agreed. I haven't watched any Pels games (just a bit at the end of a Cavs game earlier in the season).
And the Pels have lots of room to get better.
My issue is that Boom is making a clear logical error and presenting it as an absolute.
For example, we can find millions of individuals that eat healthy and exercise daily, yet they still have health problems that would normally be positively impacted by healthy habits (efficiency in our argument). It would be an illogical conclusion to assume that if they became less healthy, their health would improve.
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:44 pm to Louie T
Whoa tell me how you really feel bro? Taking the fantasy hoops loss hard eh? I've seen your pics you shouldn't be calling anyone douchebag FYI.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:44 pm to buckeye_vol
I wouldn't stay up waiting for boom to spell out a logical argument founded upon logic or statistics. His schtick is to reiterate how people simply "don't know basketball as well as he does" until they find something more worthwhile to do with their lives & move on.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:47 pm to Louie T
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:49 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:54 pm to Louie T
quote:The thing is, I don't care about any individuals or teams this argument is framed around. I just found Boom's comments to be so illogical that I had to chime in.
I wouldn't stay up waiting for boom to spell out a logical argument founded upon logic or statistics. His schtick is to reiterate how people simply "don't know basketball as well as he does" until they find something more worthwhile to do with their lives & move on.
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:56 pm to buckeye_vol
Well of course, it's my opinion. Just like if I say Houston is gonna win their first playoff series. It would be an unfounded assumption presented as an absolute truth. Not sure why you're pulling this card out on this particular argument people present absolute truths all day on this website that don't have data to support it.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:03 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:That's not how you presented it.
Well of course, it's my opinion.
quote:And if you presented it as an absolute objective truth, I would expect evidence to back up your conclusion.
Just like if I say Houston is gonna win their first playoff series.
quote:I always "pull it out." I dislike assumptions and opinions being presented as objective facts. If you have a problem with that, then state that this is your OPINION that lacks evidence. You were being dishonest presenting it otherwise.
Not sure why you're pulling this card out on this particular argument people present absolute truths all day on this website that don't have data to support it.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:05 am to buckeye_vol
Sounds like a personal issue. 
I'm not gonna put ' this is my opinion ' or ' this is fact ' in every post.
I'm not gonna put ' this is my opinion ' or ' this is fact ' in every post.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 12:30 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Sounds like a personal issue.
Haha. Oops.quote:"I think" or "I believe" are simple but to the point.
I'm not gonna put ' this is my opinion ' or ' this is fact ' in every post.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 12:31 am
Posted on 3/26/15 at 3:39 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:Okie was the only one who thought it was dirty
Cole just did the exact thing to Terry that Beverley did to Westbrook in the playoffs causing the fluke injury. But nobody here is claiming he's a piece of shite. Weird.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 6:49 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
You are saying Davis is having all time great season based on his PER
quote:Wait a minute...where did I say that?
So how can you say his season is an all time great by using a metric that if lowered would make the TEAM better?
I said he's having a historic season, YOU assumed I said that because of only PER. You're basically reading what you want to read instead of what I actually wrote.
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