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NBA players skipping games
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:36 am
This is an idea that I've been contemplating lately. Will we start seeing a Leonard Fournette bowl game type situation in the NBA from aging players? An example:
As Lebron ages could he sit out until, say, January then begin his season. As long as the Cavs can get the 8 seed they'll be the favorites and it will significantly cut his minutes. This probably wouldn't work for teams with new pieces like GS, but for a team like the Cavs with the same nucleus it wouldn't really be an issue in my mind. Lebron playes 40-50 regular season games to get into his best groove while avoiding playing a lot of minutes and travel. Cavs have a worse record, but are still favorites during playoff time.
This would obviously be bad for fans, but talking strictly about the Cavs best winning formula it could work. FWIW the league would kill anybody that tried this and I don't think it will happen, but an interesting idea.
As Lebron ages could he sit out until, say, January then begin his season. As long as the Cavs can get the 8 seed they'll be the favorites and it will significantly cut his minutes. This probably wouldn't work for teams with new pieces like GS, but for a team like the Cavs with the same nucleus it wouldn't really be an issue in my mind. Lebron playes 40-50 regular season games to get into his best groove while avoiding playing a lot of minutes and travel. Cavs have a worse record, but are still favorites during playoff time.
This would obviously be bad for fans, but talking strictly about the Cavs best winning formula it could work. FWIW the league would kill anybody that tried this and I don't think it will happen, but an interesting idea.
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I was thinking a similar thing with Gronk. Sit him until the playoffs and then unleash him.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:39 am to Mingo Was His NameO
That is a bad idea for a lot of reasons, mate. I encourage you to delete this post, reconsider your position, post it on facebook as a test drive of sorts, then come back and bring it up in an nba thread.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:43 am to PortCityTiger24
I don't know if its a good idea. I don't even think I would support it if it did happen. That doesn't mean its not an interesting idea that could be a new and "revolutionary" way to get the best of your older players. The point of my post was to see what others think about it so thanks for your thoughtful and well explained response.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:45 am to PortCityTiger24
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That is a bad idea for a lot of reasons
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:46 am to Tarik One
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That is a bad idea for a lot of reasons
I don't necessarily think your wrong. Why do you find it to be such a bad idea. Genuinely asking.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:49 am to Mingo Was His NameO
This only works in certain very rare occasions like Roger Clemens.
Only an aging HOF type pitcher can pull this off.
Only an aging HOF type pitcher can pull this off.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:50 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Lebron sits out until January. That's 2 months of TV revenue and residual ticket sales that will plummet.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:54 am to Tarik One
Agreed and the league will try to crush them for it, but i'm talking from a basketball standpoint. As I said in the OP I don't think it will happen, but I do think all sports are moving closer to it i.e college players skipping the bowl games.
You said it was a bad idea for many reasons. Are any of them from a strictly winning standpoint or all business related?
You said it was a bad idea for many reasons. Are any of them from a strictly winning standpoint or all business related?
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:56 am to Mingo Was His NameO
This is a horrible idea. You would more likely see an aging player play 60 games but participate all season. Off nights on back to backs. Only playing 2/3 of a road trip. The Cavs play at Boston March 1st, at Atlanta March 3rd, and at Miami March 4th. You would see a star like Lebron skipping that game in Atlanta. Then they have a home game on the 6th against Miami, and another 3 game road trip with Det, Orl, and Hou on the 9th, 11th, and 12th. Just limit it to where you can play one of the nights on a back to back on the road and it saves legs.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:58 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Aka the Roger Clemens strategy
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:01 am to TU Rob
You would think they would do this now, but Lebron was leading the in minutes pretty recently. He still may be, not sure I don't want to look it up. Point being is he's played a lot of minutes already.
I'll say it again to be sure that I am clear, I don't think it will happen. I do think, however, it is an interesting idea.
Also, tv revenue would not go down from this because those contracts are locked in. It might effect commercial revenue but that's a network issue not league.
I'll say it again to be sure that I am clear, I don't think it will happen. I do think, however, it is an interesting idea.
Also, tv revenue would not go down from this because those contracts are locked in. It might effect commercial revenue but that's a network issue not league.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:04 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Greg poppavich started that with resting all the spurs starters.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:05 am to Mingo Was His NameO
In basketball, you could never have a player just skip months of a season. He would not be anywhere close to playing shape to be able to play solid minutes come playoff time, when starters play more minutes than they do in the regular season. You will see, and already do, older players sitting out the second game of a back to back or sitting out other random games here and there. For instance, Tim Duncan only played in 61 games last season. Only in a sport like baseball with Roger Clemmons could you sit a star player for half the season and then bring him back for the a playoff run
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:09 am to lsufball19
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You will see, and already do, older players sitting out the second game of a back to back or sitting out other random games here and there. For instance, Tim Duncan only played in 61 games last season.
I know this, but Lebron has played a lot of minutes this year.
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In basketball, you could never have a player just skip months of a season. He would not be anywhere close to playing shape to be able to play solid minutes come playoff time, when starters play more minutes than they do in the regular season.
I don't beleive for one second if Lebron sat out the first 20 games of the season and played a total of 40-50 games skipping a few back to backs after coming back he wouldn't be ready for the playoffs.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 11:11 am
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:38 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don't beleive for one second if Lebron sat out the first 20 games of the season and played a total of 40-50 games skipping a few back to backs after coming back he wouldn't be ready for the playoffs.
Probably because you don't play but a lot of basketball is being in rhythm and in sync with your guys on both offense and defense. Even experienced teams need time to find their rhythm.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 11:42 am to LittleRockHog501
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Probably because you don't play but a lot of basketball is being in rhythm and in sync with your guys on both offense and defense. Even experienced teams need time to find their rhythm.
Whats the difference in rhythym between playing relatively the same amount of games and minutes over a whole season rather than 80% of a season? Does Lebron need to lead the league in minutes like he currently is to ensure his team has rhythm? The Spurs sit their players more than any other team and play some of the most rhythmic basketball in the league.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 12:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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As Lebron ages could he sit out until, say, January then begin his season. As long as the Cavs can get the 8 seed they'll be the favorites and it will significantly cut his minutes.
Or he could cut his minuets to 25-30 per night with days off here and there.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
The difference between winning and losing a championship is not as wide as some of you think. Even great players have to be sharp for the playoffs and you don't miss large chunks of the season and play sharp when it matters.
Posted on 2/14/17 at 1:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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The Spurs sit their players more than any other team and play some of the most rhythmic basketball in the league.
They don't miss entire chunks of the season at once. A game or two here and there while playing the majority is not the same as missing all of October/November/December. You'll be spending the rest of the season trying to all these. Fighting for playoff position/getting in game shape and Working everyone into their respective roles. That's not a formula for success no matter how you try to spin it
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 1:33 pm
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