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re: MLB to suspend Braun, ARod, others after All Star Break

Posted on 7/10/13 at 7:49 am to
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 7:49 am to
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When will ESPN realize that nobody gives a shite about steroids in baseball anymore
The one thing I care about is everyone being on the same playing field. If we really want to see 87 HR's a season, move the fences in 10' in all parks. Fans are happy, hitters are happy, players are clean and their lives after baseball will be better for it. Does that sound stupid? Probably.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 8:00 am to
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The one thing I care about is everyone being on the same playing field.


I agree with this. But I don't think there is a good answer. My guess is right now around 25% of baseball players juice in some way throughout the year. Whether it is HGH, fast acting steriods (some have a half life of hours), juicing during the off season, etc. There are so many ways to beat testing unless it is completely random, unscheduled and frequent and I do not know if we will ever really have a level playing field unfortunately.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2629 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:23 pm to
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Witch hunt


LOL. Do the crime, be ready to do the time.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 12:29 pm to
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When will ESPN realize that nobody gives a shite about steroids in baseball anymore.


According to whom?

I certainly care adn would love it if they suspended all these guys.
Posted by geauxlsu07
Adirondack Mountains
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 1:07 pm to
And why do you care?
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 2:57 pm to
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And why do you care?


Because that's what i do about sports. If i didn't wouldn't be much point watching them, now would there?
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
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Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:01 pm to
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Johnny Peralta
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
Member since Apr 2008
8064 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:04 pm to
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Because that's what i do about sports. If i didn't wouldn't be much point watching them, now would there?


I care about and watch sports too for entertainment, so I wouldn't really care if 9 Houston Astros are out their on the field looking like The Rock and dropping 75 bombs a season.

The Sosa-McGwire chase was fun stuff.

Majority of the public doesn't care about steriod use either.

Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:10 pm to
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Johnny Peralta


It's funny but him and Evereth Cabera have been tearing it up this year from the SS position.

Coincidence? Doubtful.
Posted by emmanuellewis
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2009
3266 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:17 pm to
I think plenty of people care about steroids in baseball. This should be an interesting case; I don't know that they will have enough evidence for the suspensions but it should be a good story once all of the records are released. I wonder what will happen to the guys that actually got caught using (Colon, Melky, Yasmani Grandal)? They served suspensions last year- I'd assume they would claim that is when they bought the substances and would not have to serve another suspension?
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:22 pm to
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It's funny but him and Evereth Cabera have been tearing it up this year from the SS position.


Please tell what measure jumps out at you where you can point to Cabrera using PEDs.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:27 pm to
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Please tell what measure jumps out at you where you can point to Cabrera using PEDs.


His all around numbers which were all well above career levels until he pulled his hammy.

He was top 15 in all of MLB in fantasy value when he got hurt. There were about 10 hitters that were putting up overall better numbers when you combined all 5 offensive categories.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:32 pm to
So now PED's turns you into a contact hitter? His ISO is right around 2009 numbers. If you look at his BABIP, it'll show that he's getting luckier in his AB's and his speed has always been there.


I'm not sure what runs and rbi have to do with PEDs either.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:36 pm to
I dunno whether or not he is juicing. But I would bet he is with at least 80% confidence. His name was not in the records for no reason.

And steriods can do lots of different things beside make someone "swole". They can actually help increase focus and energy without affecting muscle mass. Sorta like aphetimines. Lots and lots of different kinds of PEDs.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:39 pm to
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Majority of the public doesn't care about steriod use either.


Different strokes for different folks. I know chicks dig the long ball, but i'm ok with clean players hitting a reasonable numbers of home runs per year. In fact i prefer it.

ETA: Chicks Dig the Long Ball
This post was edited on 7/10/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:47 pm to
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Different strokes for different folks. I know chicks dig the long ball, but i'm ok with clean players hitting a reasonable numbers of home runs per year. In fact i prefer it.
Indeed. As long as we don't dip into the boredom and awful dross of college baseball and what that's become, I'm fine with MLB and 35-40 HR being the most per year. Chris Davis ain't having that this year, though.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:51 pm to
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I'm fine with MLB and 35-40 HR being the most per year.


Yeah, I do not personally enjoy the game more or less with more home runs or offense.

Most exciting baseball game (especially in the playoffs) is almost always a great pitchers duel IMO.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43103 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:57 pm to
frick Braun.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by The White Lobster
Member since Jul 2009
16764 posts
Posted on 7/10/13 at 4:02 pm to
This could get very ugly. Not good for the game.
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