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re: MLB Farm Systems Ranked by Surplus fWAR

Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:02 am to
Posted by Theoldgraycoat
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:02 am to
Theo is an evil genius and I wish my redsox still had him. We're obviously in good shape and I trust the organization when it comes to player development and scouting, it's when they get to the bigs that I get a little nervous
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 1:03 am
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:35 am to
The Red Sox have some premier young guys, it was the FA just cratering and a putrid bullpen last year that did them in.

What team would not want Mookie Betts, Xander, Swihart, and Rodriguez?
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 7:49 am to
Sox in first and it ain't even close
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:32 am to
As a fan, a good farm system can lessen the blow of a crappy major league team because there is something to look forward to. Which is why I find the Angels situation hilarious. A crappy, massively overpaid team, the worst farm system by far in the majors, and they are literally wasting the prime years of a generational talent. I love it.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:42 am to
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they are literally wasting the prime years of a generational talent. I love it.

He hasn't reached his "prime" years yet... kinda scary
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 8:52 am to
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He hasn't reached his "prime" years yet... kinda scary

Yep, it's still hard to imagine he's only 24.

And unless the Angels just turn into the late 2000's Yankees spending wise, I see no way that they can improve the farm system or major league team in a short amount of time without trading Trout. And That would be a deal very few teams could make.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:03 am to
They need Weaver/Wilson to have a good first halves so they can spin them at the deadline this year... Maybe start moving a few players even if it means getting depth back.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:13 am to
If Weaver can't hit 85 with his fastball, no team will want him. Too many concerns with his shoulder/elbow. Same with Wilson.

The Angels could ask for pretty much any package they want for Trout....and it still could be considered as an underpayment.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:16 am to
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If Weaver can't hit 85 with his fastball, no team will want him.
Maddux couldn't hit 85

If they both show they can be effective middle of rotation guys a team will show interest. They would not receive a haul but they could get some low level guys who could become something.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:27 am to
But Maddux didn't lose almost 5 mph off his average in one season. Which is a huge concern. Can he still be effective? Yes. Is this graph a major red flag for other teams? I'd say probably.


Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 9:52 am to
Possibly but Mark Buerhle remained effective it depends on Weaver and if he can transform himself into a different type of pitcher. If he can stay healthy and have an ERA around 3.50 at the break I think the Angels could move him.
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:16 am to
I'm not saying there's no way he gets moved, because teams get desperate for pitching depth. But he's owed $20million next season and has concerns.

It's going to be someone absolutely desperate and even then there are probably better and more affordable pitching depth out there.
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:40 am to
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If Weaver can't hit 85 with his fastball, no team will want him. Too many concerns with his shoulder/elbow. Same with Wilson.


Plus Wilson doesn't do squat in the postseason.
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:44 am to
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Which is why I find the Angels situation hilarious. A crappy, massively overpaid team, the worst farm system by far in the majors, and they are literally wasting the prime years of a generational talent. I love it.


Any time something bad happens to a Cali team I love it. That state is so full of arrogant prima donna fans that show up late after getting boob jobs and leave early for botox sessions.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:45 am to
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Wilson


Needs to stick to racing cars and blowing dudes out in Cali.

Guy is the biggest douche in baseball.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 10:46 am to
Lol
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:22 pm to
This is absurd.

quote:

...it’s possible to calculate a total value for every team’s farm system and remove the biases of subjectivity...
...using...
quote:

...scouting grades produced by Baseball America.

Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:52 pm to
West Coast, you can always come home.
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:53 pm to
how does that Lyle Lovett song go?
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 1:54 pm to
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2. 39 mill left I believe


And now Hamilton will be on the DL until mid-May. So they can pay for his non-production like they did the first month of last year.

Steinbrenner was a wild spender but at least he won something with his spending.
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