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re: Mike and Mike posed an interesting question

Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:43 pm to
Ben Carson says that prisons make people gay...not God.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:44 pm to
Yes.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:44 pm to
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Hmmmm, not necessarily. Mississippi is under investigation by the DOJ for not reporting sexual assaults. Their defense has literally been "Oh, you were asking for it and probably liked it." And I believe sexual assault in prisons are on the rise.




It still doesn't happen to everyone that goes to jail. Thats my point.

Going to prison doesn't mean you're going to be arse raped. Literally millions of people go to jail without getting arse raped
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:45 pm to
Mississippi prisons are a joke. The Commissioner for the prison just got convicted on federal bribery charges and I always see a new face because the guards ate constantly getting arrested for either banging the prisoners or sneaking contraband in to them. The thugs run these prisons and if one wants to put his weewee in your stomach, I don't see who is going to protect you.

Federal guards here are legit, though. They are actually qualified.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:46 pm to
Back to the question.

Yes I would definitely risk it. Half court shots with no one guarding you aren't that hard. Very confident, WITH A LOT OF PRACTICE IN AN ARENA, I could make at least one.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:47 pm to
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The thugs run these prisons and if one wants to put his weewee in your stomach, I don't see who is going to protect you.



You pay those same people to not do that.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:53 pm to
I would not do it. I might hit one half court shot under normal circumstances out of 20 but not under pressure like that
Posted by DeathValley85
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 3:55 pm to
I would do it....I know I can make 1 of 20.
Posted by wizziko
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:03 pm to
the expected value works out so yes, you should do it

$1,000,000 per shot vs 36.5 days in jail per shot



ETA: I believe that's how it's done
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:04 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:05 pm to
It's not

Eta: although now I'm questioning how I'd find the expected value myself. So frick if i know
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:07 pm to
What would suck about this is if you miss your first 10 or so you'll start feeling the pressure of prison. Better make an early shot.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:09 pm to
With no time restraint, yes. If the first one or two of that day went terrible, back to the drawing board, come back, try again.

I'm assuming after 2 years you just have a felony "Lost a Bet" on your record that wouldn't impede your ability to live life after prison? If going to prison affects my ability to work an actual job, that changes things.

ETA: This would actually be a fun little Made-For-TV series if they put a time restraint on it assuming the dude didn't nail it early.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:12 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:23 pm to
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Eta: although now I'm questioning how I'd find the expected value myself. So frick if i know
I could be wrong, but this is how I found the expected value based on a 5% chance of a making a single shot.

Probability of making at least 1 shot is easier to calculate as 1 - (the probability of not making one shot): 1 - (.95^20) = 0.64151.

Then the expected value should be the probability of making a shot multiplied by the reward: 0.64151*$20,000,000 = $12,830,282.

Now this would be incomplete because you would have to figure the costs of not making a shot 36% of the time (e.g., lost income, loss of future income, debt increasing etc.).

I also think that the probability of making a single shot will change with each successive miss because the psychological pressures will change, but I think this is roughly a good way to figure it out.
This post was edited on 3/5/15 at 4:27 pm
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:27 pm to
If I did this, I would take out an insurance policy and hire a good lawyer. Have to keep something in your back pocket.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:29 pm to
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If I did this, I would take out an insurance policy and hire a good lawyer. Have to keep something in your back pocket
Great point. You could not only offset the costs of two years in prison, but given the expected value of winning, actually make more money than normal.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:32 pm to
I have always been really good at half court shots. I don't think I've ever missed ten in a row in my life. Seems like a no brainer, but the pressure could get tough. Miss the first 10, and I'm suddenly wishing I didn't take the deal.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:32 pm to
If I could have a week or more to practice I think would consider it. If the offer was presented to me on the spot and it was a take it or leave it right now option I would pass.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:35 pm to
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I have always been really good at half court shots. I don't think I've ever missed ten in a row in my life. Seems like a no brainer, but the pressure could get tough. Miss the first 10, and I'm suddenly wishing I didn't take the deal.
This is really a great scenario for a psychology/economics study. We do typically have loss aversion so even though the expected value is so large, the prospect of prison may be too much.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 4:36 pm to
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Based on that competition with the current player/old guy/WNBA player, I think Chris Bosh could somewhere b/w 4-7 out of 20


Bosh is money. 10/20 is possible from him.
Posted by 3rdRowTailgater
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/5/15 at 5:02 pm to
I would definitely take the chance. I'm 100% confident in my ability to hit one.
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