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re: McShay Mock Draft 2.0 released

Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:27 pm to
Well Jones never played a down at WR prior to the NFL, Miller just played a full season at OSU at the position. That alone is a large difference in terms of development and being completely new to a position coming into the NFL versus actually having prior coaching and experience there.

Matt Jones was a 6'6" possession WR, while Miller is 6'2" with quicker feet (a given with their size difference), better route running at this stage (advantage of the year in college at the position), and simply has a higher skill ceiling than Jones ever did.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 7:29 pm
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:30 pm to
With what you just posted, it could be just as easy to argue that Jones had a higher ceiling being 6'6 with 4.3 speed, but Miller would have less bust potential.

Guess we shall see.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:14 pm to
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And a complete and total f*ck up off it
You mean the one time?
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:22 pm to
Saw him only in one game and you could tell hes special....but not sure if he could do that in the NFL. I'd let another team draft him and go after better bets vs low floor high risk players
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:31 pm to
Miller also spent last week torching DBs all week long in Senior Bowl practices.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:48 pm to
Wentz has a lot of Ben Roethlisberger in his game. HUGE frame, big arm and surprisingly shifty/mobile for his size.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:50 pm to
Matt Jones played some WR while at Arkansas. I remember being thrilled that bastard lined up outside, because it meant he wasn't gonna run all over us.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:50 pm to
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Nkemdiche is a damn beast on the field and him with Mack would be unbelievably sick. Is the risk worth the reward? Maybe. Tough arse call.


Dude makes Manziel and Gronk look docile off the field if half the stories are true. He has a better shot of being in prison in 5 years than ever making an all-pro team.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:29 pm to
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Matt Jones played some WR while at Arkansas.


No he didn't, he had 4 catches in his Arkansas career and 2 of those were his freshman year.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:34 pm to
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Has Panthers last pick of the 1st round in his Mock. Picks the Broncos in his Super Bowl pick


Didn't the Patriots lose their 1st rounder?
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 9:37 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:36 pm to
Denver?
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:38 pm to
30. Denver Broncos (12-4)
Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana Hoosiers
Posted by TexasTiger6777
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 9:39 pm to
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Dude makes Manziel and Gronk look docile off the field if half the stories are true. He has a better shot of being in prison in 5 years than ever making an all-pro team.



Care to elaborate?
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:39 pm to
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Didn't the Patriots lose their 1st rounder?


Yes, which is exactly why I said that he has the Panthers as the LAST (31st) pick of the 1st round.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:10 am to
Bosa at #1? Guy is overated. He will be OK but he is no JJ Watt. Not worthy of #1.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:16 am to
He is A+ against the run, has perfect size and great hands.

He is more than worthy.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:23 am to
I'd take him.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:40 am to
This looks like the 2013 draft with Eric Fisher and Luke JOKE-el being the first 2 picks. HUGE busts. It's the exception most years that there's not a consensus #1, or a least a dynamic player a team would be trying to trade into the top 5 to get.

Not seeing it here, which sucks because LF7 was born to wear P&G before sporting that blue Star on his helmet.
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:51 am to
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I can't see the Titans not addressing the OL. You've got the QB, now lets not get him killed.


To me it comes down to how much better you think Bosa is for the next decade than the top OT on your board. None of us can answer that.

I don't know how anyone who has watched Bosa in a game thinks he's not worthy at #1. Teams completely ran plays to the opposite side of the field all year.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/6/16 at 10:53 am to
Lester Earl made a good point. You can't pass on elite pass rushing talent. Not in today's NFL.
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