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re: Maryland approves move to Big TEN
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:42 pm to OrangeBlood
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:42 pm to OrangeBlood
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I'm not being a dick, just curious...See my post above and explain how this will happen.
Well it was just a year ago that four Big 12 teams tried to jump ship and the PAC 12 said no, you have to wonder if that answer would still be a no today after the Big 10, ACC, and SEC have all moved to 14.
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:44 pm to teke184
why exactly is 16 the magic number? why can't 14 be the stopping point?
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:44 pm to BreakawayZou83
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they are going to have some awful expansion targets: BYU?
BYU, with their strong Mormon population, is one of the better candidate for expansion.
a lot of people assume SEC will go to 16 but ...
can the SEC add two new schools and still increase their revenues per team? i am not sure Clemson, FSU or GT do that since the conference already has presence in the areas.
More teams = more mouths to feed which equals less money for the current members.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:45 pm to OrangeBlood
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And this is why I still think the Big 12 is the most susceptible to a full-blown collapse, even after this Maryland move
I'm not being a dick, just curious...See my post above and explain how this will happen.
Best guess? Texas, Tech, OU, and Okie State to the Pac 12, leaving the remaining six members twisting in the wind.
At that point, everyone is looking for a landing spot rather than bringing in sub-optimal schools to prop up the conference.
If the conference dissolves, I'd think the grant of rights is no longer an issue.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:45 pm to Chicken
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can you give me a summary of how the GoR works
Honestly I wish I could and I've asked the same question. But my very limited understanding is that it involves an assignment of a school's media rights (think copyright as the big one I suppose) to the conference. Therefore the conference owns the ability to broadcast, copy, etc your games. So even if the team moves to another conference, their rights don't go with them - pretty worthless pick up for the new conference.
Also my understanding is that a GoR (like any transfer of property, albeit intangible here) is different than an exit fee and harder and more expensive to get out of, if you even could. All I know is that Pac12/B1G proponents always throw this around as a reason that none of their teams can be poached - so it should apply to the Big12 too I assume.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:46 pm to Chicken
quote:scheduling becomes much easier with 4 divisions of 4 as opposed to 2 divisions of 7
why exactly is 16 the magic number? why can't 14 be the stopping point?
especially if the SEC wants to keep permanent rivals, which they do.
under the current system, it would take 12 years to complete a home-and-home series with a cross-division non-rival. LSU and USC/UGA/Tennessee might as well not even be in the same conference anymore.
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:46 pm to teke184
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If the conference dissolves, I'd think the grant of rights is no longer an issue
I agree with this (I think) - I just see full conference dissolution much less likely (almost no chance) than a team or two getting picked off.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:47 pm to Chicken
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why exactly is 16 the magic number? why can't 14 be the stopping point?
16 is likely it because it helps take the Big East and ACC out behind the barn to shoot them in the head.
If there are one or two less major conferences jockeying for TV contracts, the remaining conferences get richer contracts.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:47 pm to BreakawayZou83
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BYU? Boise State? Nevada?
I was pretty sure all of these got passed up over the suck-arse football teams of Utah and Colorado solely because of academics.
I was also wrong about the Big 10's "contagion rule" as it applies to GT: LINK
Still, wouldn't GT come down with the same problem WVU will eventually have?
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:47 pm to rocket31
The populations of North Carolina and Virginia would help the SEC expansion...plus those two states are contiguous with the current SEC footprint.
I see the business reason for that, but hopefully the studies have been done to see if it makes sense financially.
I see the business reason for that, but hopefully the studies have been done to see if it makes sense financially.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:49 pm to baytiger
quote:how are two divisions of 7 really difficult on scheduling?
scheduling becomes much easier with 4 divisions of 4 as opposed to 2 divisions of 7
The problem is the 8-game conference schedule...
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:49 pm to 1fairbank
I'd be happy if the change moves us to 9 conference games. Then we'd have 9 in conference, the mandated game against an Ohio team (wonder if this could go away), a top flight OOC game and an OOC game against a 40-50'ish type team.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:59 pm to VABuckeye
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I'd be happy if the change moves us to 9 conference games. Then we'd have 9 in conference, the mandated game against an Ohio team (wonder if this could go away), a top flight OOC game and an OOC game against a 40-50'ish type team.
This seems like a perfect scheduling for every team in NCAAFB; Regional Cupcake, Mid-level OOC, BCSAQ OOC, 6 divisional games, 1 cross divisional rival (if possible), and 2 other cross-div games, followed by a Conference Championship and either bowl games or a playoff.
Sounds like a NCAAFB fan's wet dream
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:04 pm to Chicken
quote:even if you go to a 9 game conference schedule, the scheduling is much simpler and more elegant with 4 divisions of 4 anyway.
The problem is the 8-game conference schedule...
This post was edited on 11/19/12 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:05 pm to 504Saint
Wow @ the GT rumors.
It's amazing how honest this can make you about your attitudes and respect towards other conferences, when you're considering who you want to play year-in and year-out.
I think GT is a better fit with the B1G. I could see that being good for our attendance/excitement around the program.
It's amazing how honest this can make you about your attitudes and respect towards other conferences, when you're considering who you want to play year-in and year-out.
I think GT is a better fit with the B1G. I could see that being good for our attendance/excitement around the program.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:08 pm to 1fairbank
I wish the Big 10 would add a school that has a football program with a pulse. VT would be great, of course they aren't in the AAU which makes them a no go.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:09 pm to OrangeBlood
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Oh and Chip Brown tweeted that the Big12 was not looking to expand even with today's events....which means the Big12 will soon look to move to a 20 team conference.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:12 pm to BreakawayZou83
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Well it was just a year ago that four Big 12 teams tried to jump ship
A year ago there was no GoR in the Big12 - I think it totally changes the landscape now in the Big12 (although as I posted a bit earlier, I can't explain it very well
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Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:14 pm to Swoopin
B1G want to get to the South for a very long time since they got the TV sets in Atlanta (Top 10) and very good recuiting area (GA/SC) for them to go there. That would be B1G next move.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:21 pm to 504Saint
Rutgers is ranked, could potentially land in a BCS bowl and now - if these stories are correct - heading to a real conference.
2012 might be the best year in the history of the football program.
2012 might be the best year in the history of the football program.
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