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Looking for a softball ruling:

Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:19 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:19 pm
Yeah, I'm copying bc I didnt want to hijack the other thread.

Situation:

Batter swings a hits a dinker 6 feet in the air (maybe 12 feet from plate) near first baseline. Has tons of spin on it. First baseman and pitcher both scramble to get it. It falls under the glove of the pitcher and she kicks the ball 6 feet into foul territory. While going after the kicked ball, the pitcher, first baseman, and runner all collide in foul territory.

First baseman gets up and tosses ball to first (2nd baseman covering) for the out while batter lays on the ground run over from other 2 chasing a kicked ball.

What is the ruling?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76526 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:22 pm to
Runner gets 1st obviously.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8001 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

Runner gets 1st obviously.


Runner was called out.

Does the interference rule change if a ball has been touched or kicked?
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 6:24 pm
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:30 pm to
This deals with obstruction of baserunner. If the fielder is deemed to be in the act of fielding the ball and collides with the baserunner there is no obstruction. It's a tough call because the ball was booted but I think the rule gives some leeway for the fielder.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8001 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

This deals with obstruction of baserunner. If the fielder is deemed to be in the act of fielding the ball and collides with the baserunner there is no obstruction. It's a tough call because the ball was booted but I think the rule gives some leeway for the fielder.


This is where I got confused.

Im no bueno at softball rules but from my understanding, the runner would absolutely be out if the ball had not been kicked.

But does the pitcher kicking the ball 6 ft into foul territory, then the collision happening after the kick, change the interference rule?
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4467 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I'm copying bc I didnt want to hijack the other thread.

Situation:

Batter swings a hits a dinker 6 feet in the air (maybe 12 feet from plate) near first baseline. Has tons of spin on it. First baseman and pitcher both scramble to get it. It falls under the glove of the pitcher and she kicks the ball 6 feet into foul territory. While going after the kicked ball, the pitcher, first baseman, and runner all collide in foul territory.

First baseman gets up and tosses ball to first (2nd baseman covering) for the out while batter lays on the ground run over from other 2 chasing a kicked ball.

What is the ruling?


I feel like this was or would be a reader sumbitted entry to Sports Illustrated for Kids.
Posted by Nobs
Houston
Member since Dec 2010
377 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:48 pm to
Runner should be safe at 1st due to obstruction. Unless......it was ruled that the runner was running outside the base path, then the runner is out on interference.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8001 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

Runner should be safe at 1st due to obstruction. Unless......it was ruled that the runner was running outside the base path, then the runner is out on interference.


Runner was ruled out at first.

No obstruction called one way or the other.

I was told by another umpire during the game that the batter should have been called out for interference.

Just seemed backwards to me since the pitcher made a play for the ball, kicked it into foul, then the collision occured.
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:09 pm to
Judgement call. Based on if runner ran out of basepath or not
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 7:26 pm to
How tight are their pants?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:14 pm to
Only matters if the runner is in the basepath when she was contacted by the fielder. If she was out of the basepath she would be out for interning with the feilder.
This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:24 pm to
Pics of base runner?
Posted by GalvezPiratePride
St. Amant, La
Member since Jun 2014
128 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 8:54 pm to
Why is she running in foul territory? That’s not the basepath
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8001 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

Why is she running in foul territory? That’s not the basepath





Like a foot outside the baseline.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7397 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

But does the pitcher kicking the ball 6 ft into foul territory, then the collision happening after the kick, change the interference rule?


I think it’s all an umpire judgment call at that point. She’s still going after the ball attempting to field it so I guess you can’t really be upset with the ruling.
Posted by coachbush
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2016
108 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:00 am to
This is where the ole umpire judgement comes into play. Very hard call but the umpire has to determine if the runner blocked the fielders from making play, or did fielders block runner from advancing to base...from your story I would of ruled runner safe due to obstruction. Maybe they saw it as she was out of running lane or purposely got in way of fielders. Tough call either way that you dont see very often.
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