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re: LHSAA meetings....looks like more trouble on the horizon.

Posted on 12/16/12 at 9:42 am to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 9:42 am to
it isn't really listed anywhere. i looked at the districts and did my best guess on what schools were public and not.

also some public schools might be forced to play in nonpublic divisions should a split happen, Byrd and Karr among others

i might be wrong on small class schools... don't really keep up with them
This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 9:47 am
Posted by cb6030
Lecompte
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 9:50 am to
Class B and C are non-football schools. Class B actually has the same enrollment numbers as Class 1A, only difference is football. Most privates have football is the reason there not many in B and C.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:50 am to
When are these LHSAA meetings/votes being held?
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:08 pm to
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The more likely scenario is what happened to Redemporist. They were a football factory, raising huge sums of money on the backs of their athletic program and recruiting well enough to win state championships. The death spiral started when the parents that were ponying up the money realized their little Johnny was riding the pine while the recruits got all the PT, little Johnny quits and takes mommy and daddy's money with him, same parents quit putting in the time for other fund-raising, and scholarship money starts to dry up. Repeat until enrollment drops, add several good breakaway school districts in Zachary and Central, and change administration to an academic that says no more scholarships. You go from being competitive in 4A to a 1A school within a decade. That, and the rise in prominence of the Ascension Parish schools, coupled with the sorry economy and rising tuition at the Dunhams and Episcopals of the world make growth at private schools, at least in Baton Rouge, pretty difficult.


I see what you're saying, but don't think U-High and Redemptorist are comparable. Redempt just isn't close to the bulk of its would-be student body -- Zachary and Central included -- and a principal retired who was very popular, from what I understand. What you said is true, but only part of the picture. But I will say the biggest single factor in its demise was the Central/Zachary ISDs...why spend money on private school when there is a good public school to send your kids to?

The only BR private that might get to a Curtis/Evangel level is Parkview, if they decide they need to bring in more high-end athletes to compete in 3A with Curtis and Evangel (could happen). I don't think Parkview has quite as much academic prestige that might create butthurt if football becomes the face of the school, like at Curtis. Like I said before, I can see the academic types at U-High sort of curbing the recruiting if they begin to feel like it's hurting their academic reputation. That school doesn't need dominant football for prestige. It's considered one of the top schools in BR. Dominant football won't help that, and might hurt.


Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:12 pm to
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ETA: Shocked about the B & C numbers. Always thought there were a larger number of small, private schools in those classes.


For every new one that opens, there's a Reserve Christian, Excelsior Christian or a Bethany Christian that closes its doors.

In fact, Reserve and Excelsior was a Class C state final one year with Tweedy Carter and LaceDarius Dunn playing each other. Within a couple of years, they were both closed.

Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
29187 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:19 pm to
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That school doesn't need dominant football for prestige. It's considered one of the top schools in BR. Dominant football won't help that, and might hurt.


Completely agree. Both my kids have been very involved in sports, but that isn't the main reason they are there.

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Like I said before, I can see the academic types at U-High sort of curbing the recruiting if they begin to feel like it's hurting their academic reputation.


No signs of that so far.
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/16/12 at 12:41 pm to
How would parkview and st mikes enrollment do if the woodlawn district would of passed?
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 1:03 pm to
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How would parkview and st mikes enrollment do if the woodlawn district would of passed?


That's a good question. I would bet both take a hit. I don't see either as great academic schools that are worth the money if parents thought highly of the local public school. I don't think Episcopal would suffer at all.

I'd bet they would both struggle to stay in their respective classes and Woodlawn would become the dominant football school in greater Baton Rouge, not just in EBR.

It's a better location for most families than Central and Zachary. Most newer Baton Rouge jobs are probably in south Baton Rouge, particularly white-collar jobs. So the district would be well-funded. It's closer to amenities around town than Ascension schools. I bet its enrollement would jump to the 1,800 range, it would be close to a 50-50 school racially like Zachary and it would start drawing some of the best players in BR. Plus, they would increase the coaching staff size, emphasize sub-varsity teams more and within a couple of years I'd bet they'd be as good as Dutchtown and within 5-6 years, it would surpass Dutchtown.

Very easy for the family of a football player to buy a house in that part of town or rent an apartment to get their kid zoned in the better school. Probably wouldn't be much farther, and good chance it may be closer, to work for a lot of the parents.

This post was edited on 12/16/12 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
16877 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 10:35 pm to
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r rent an apartment to get their kid zoned in the better school.


i got a good friend that teaches at one of the elem schools in zachary, and she says that they have many parents that live in surrounding areas outside of zachary that rent small 1-room apartments just to get the residency to send their kids to zachary schools.

they have a truancy officer that goes to these apartments to check if anybody is actually living there..they really do research into residency out there now.

if they find no evidence of "living" in the apartments, the kids are asked to leave.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30538 posts
Posted on 12/16/12 at 11:01 pm to
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quote:
How would parkview and st mikes enrollment do if the woodlawn district would of passed?



Little effect at all...at least from the folks I know at both places...
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