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re: Leonard Fournette: NFL game 'a lot slower than I really thought'

Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:37 pm to
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I’m just serving up some crow
Serving up some crow? Averaging less than 4 yards per carry, with 6 games games below 3 yards per carry compared to only 4 with more than 4 yards per carry isn’t exactly a sign of a game that is slow for that player.

He had a decent enough rookie season, but save for 165 yard in back to back carries, he was an average to below average running back.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:51 pm to
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He had a decent enough rookie season, but save for 165 yard in back to back carries, he was an average to below average running back.


I agree, he wasn't sensational. But he was good. He definitely wasn't below average.

His YPC also come against an always stacked box and as someone who watched every Jags game, he made a lot of extra yards I'm not sure others could have made
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:54 pm to
I don’t slob all over athletes just because they played at the college I attended/follow.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:05 pm to
Jacksonville's OLine hasn't been the best at blocking this year, but LF has been a lil disappointing to me to in the regard that he just isn't patient enough to find a hole to run through. A lot of times this season I've noticed he's just barreled straight ahead like he would do against Alabama, and sometimes holes where there if he had looked for them. If there isn't a giant hole there for him to run through he just does that, just jams it up in there, he has to get better at finding those holes. I know he isn't Leveon Bell, to be patient enough to wait for the hole to develop, but he can do better I know. And he was also still hurt this season too, I guess that LSU injury still lingered. But he can be explosive when just bursts out and runs over defenders turning on elite speed for a big back, I expect him to be much better next season now that he knows what to expect.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:06 pm to
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He definitely wasn't below average.
I didn’t mean he had a below average season, I just meant that for parts of the season he was below average, although that’s compared to the NFL as a whole and not the entirety of the season—which means he had a decent rookie season.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94388 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:06 pm to
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He had a decent enough rookie season, but save for 165 yard in back to back carries, he was an average to below average running back.



Except for those times he was good, he wasn't that good.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22517 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:08 pm to
I think he’s saying LF has been inconsistent
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:14 pm to
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Except for those times he was good, he wasn't that good.
Yes.

2 consecutive carries: 82.5 YPC
Remaining 266 carries: 3.29 YPC
All 268 carries: 3.88 YPC

So altogether it was an OK season, decent for a rookie, but those peak moments weren’t enough to make it more than that. He had too many negative carries, so some huge feasts and a lot of little famines isn’t good but it’s not bad either.

Regardless it wasn’t an “eat your crow season.”
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 4:16 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:16 pm to
And don’t forget he’s a liability in pass protection

How many baby mama he got now?
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16769 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 4:41 pm to
What a weird bump, didn’t know LF was showing out....he has 23 carries for 77 yds, how pedestrian
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110725 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:40 pm to
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Some solid stuff on the first page

Not sure why you quoted to mock me.

Fournette was fantastic this season and 100% hampered by the Jax offense, basically exactly what I said. He averaged less than 4 YPC by leading the league in 8 man boxes.

Find someone else to make fun of, my post was not incorrect.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110725 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:44 pm to
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All 268 carries: 3.88 YPC

Impressive as shite if you have any remote understanding of the high school offense Jax had to run this season because of their QB.

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So altogether it was an OK season, decent for a rookie
If you ignore context, sure. But why would you ignore context?

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He had too many negative carries
Think that had anything to do with seeing more 8 man fronts than any RB in the NFL? Again, context.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 5:54 pm to
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Think that had anything to do with seeing more 8 man fronts than any RB in the NFL? Again, context.
Of course. That’s why I didn’t say he had a below average season despite having below average YPC, and well below average for most of the season. So I acknowledge these factors impacted his stats, but they don’t make below average stats “fantastic;” they make them more like average.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 6:03 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33887 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:10 pm to
People have too much of a hard on for stats sometimes. The jags didn't get this far on the arm of Bortles
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22517 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:12 pm to
Bortles did have a couple of good games. And their defense is elite too. Fournette contributed no doubt but he didn’t carry the team or anything.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:49 pm to
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People have too much of a hard on for stats sometimes. The jags didn't get this far on the arm of Bortles
No, they were a pretty complete team overall. I just hope you’re not implying it was mostly because of Fournette, because they went 3-0 in his absence and averaged 31.7 points per game, 7 more than the other 13. Of course he played a role though.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 7:50 pm
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