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re: Lebron James just completed the greatest finals performance ever
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:42 am to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:42 am to TeddyPadillac
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All i'm saying is in order to win a championship, somebody has to step up and be better than expected. That was Kyrie, as crazy as that may sound considering Lebron's stats.
and yes his rebounds are useless stat. How hard is it for the biggest most athletic person on the court pretty much at all times to get 10+ boards when he plays the entire game?
This is embarrassingly dumb. You have forgotten the face of your father
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:45 am to TeddyPadillac
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I still have no problem with Lebron being the MVP, and he deserved it, but it's not hard to see Kyrie was just as much a MVP
Lebron literally led all players in points, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. Something that had never been done before in any playoff series of any length. And you're really on here arguing that somebody else was just as, if not more, deserving of MVP?
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:49 am to MusclesofBrussels
Is it bad I woke up this morning and I let teddy's stupidity piss me off. I seriously hope he's trolling. I really wonder how people can be so fricking dumb. I'm glad I don't think like that. What an embarrassment
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:51 am to MusclesofBrussels
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This is embarrassingly dumb
no it isn't.
Who gives a shite if he got 10 rebounds? Draymond did too, and that was expected. Outside of Tristan Thompson, no one else on the court was expected to grab rebounds other than those two. they both played the 5 a lot. Are you impressed when Dwight Howard grabs 10 rebounds in a playoff game?
Posted on 6/20/16 at 10:51 am to TeddyPadillac
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The only point i'm trying to make is Lebron was not the offensive go to guy in this series, and he was not the guy putting daggers into the heart of every GSW fan like Kyrie did. The offensive show Kyrie put on was amazing, and he is the one that hit the clutch shots, not Lebron.
But the stats represent something. They aren't just numbers that are meaningless like you claim.
LeBron was better than Kyrie in this series. Kyrie was great, but LeBron was better. It's just a fact.
LeBron averaged a 26.5 Gamescore. Kyrie averaged 19.1.
LeBron had a better net rating
Lebron had a higher eFG% over the series
You're ignoring that Kyrie was awful in the first two games of the series. James wasn't great either, but Kyrie was just bad.
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Game 5 Lebron was awesome, and unstoppable. If he played and shot like that all the time the NBA would be boring b/c they would never lose. But even that game Kyrie overshadowed him with how great he was.
And LeBron followed that game 5 performance with arguably the greatest single game finals performance ever in game 6. Kyrie played well, but wasn't even in the same stratosphere as LeBron in game 6.
Kyrie hitting the go ahead shot in Game 7 does not in any way, shape, or form, trump whatever else was done in the series.
Just like Ray Allen's 3 to send Game 6 into OT doesn't trump what Lebron did in Game 6 and Game 7 of that series.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:09 am to MusclesofBrussels
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Something that had never been done before in any playoff series of any length. And you're really on here arguing that somebody else was just as, if not more, deserving of MVP?
Kyrie wasn't more deserving, but i think just as deserving, yes.
I don't see what's so crazy about that. How can you watch those last 3 games and not see how great Kyrie was as an individual offensive player? He literally could not be stopped from scoring.
He took 24 shots in game 5 and made 70% of them. That's crazy.
I guess i'm just thinking this way b/c i was overly impressed with how awesome Kyrie was from an offensive stand point. As ive said before, I expect Lebron to go 30/11/9. Maybe not expect it so much, as not surprised, which isn't fair to him, but that's just how some view his stats, b/c he is that great and we expect him to be great.
I did not expect to watch Kryie do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted like he did, and hit big shots when it mattered most.
I was just more impressed with Kyrie than Lebron. But that doesn't mean what Lebron did wasn't great, and he deserved the MVP no doubt.
Like one of the announcers said, the team that wins the championship wins it usually b/c someone steps up and plays better than expected. That was Kyrie to me.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:15 am to TeddyPadillac
Idk why you say that though, because outside of game 5, he played about as well as could be expected.
Tristan Thompson is the guy who played above himself in this series.
Tristan Thompson is the guy who played above himself in this series.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:16 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Something appears to have changed...
Lebron deserved the MVP no doubt.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:27 am to JohnnyKilroy
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But the stats represent something. They aren't just numbers that are meaningless like you claim.
I only said the rebounds were a pointless stat. I just don't care that he got 10+ boards. I don't care that Draymond did either, or Tristan Thompson. It means nothing.
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LeBron was better than Kyrie in this series. Kyrie was great, but LeBron was better. It's just a fact.
I'm not saying he wasn't better.
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Kyrie hitting the go ahead shot in Game 7 does not in any way, shape, or form, trump whatever else was done in the series.
Well considering he won them game 5, and if he doesn't hit that shot, after Lebron had 4 shots to make one and didn't, they might not be celebrating today.
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Just like Ray Allen's 3 to send Game 6 into OT doesn't trump what Lebron did in Game 6 and Game 7 of that series.
Kyrie isn't Ray Allen. Kryie was the best offensive player on the court the last 3 games.
Although i came away thinking more of Klay Thompson as well and thinking he could succeed if he played somewhere else, which i always thought he was more of just a product of their system and players. He looked like a very good individual scorer, especially getting his own shot off and driving to the goal.
What i got out of this series was that Lebron was awesome as usual, and deserved this championship and i'm happy for him. Kyrie is a big time superstar. Looked like a top 10 player in the league. Curry let the phsycial play get to him, and played as if he didn't care and it was just another game. Klay Thompson is a legit individual scorer. Harrison Barnes lost a lot of money, maybe Ezeli too. Barnes is going to wish he signed that $16M/yr offer last year to stay in GSW b/c he's probably gone and will be lucky to get that offer. Draymond is a bitch, but he's really good player on both ends of the court. Kevin Love needs to go somewhere else and be Minnesota Kevin Love. Tristan Thompson's defense on guards was outstanding, and he earned his money for sure.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 11:37 am to TeddyPadillac
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Well considering he won them game 5, and if he doesn't hit that shot, after Lebron had 4 shots to make one and didn't, they might not be celebrating today.
How did Kyrie win them Game 5, but not LeBron? Lebron was better than Kyrie in Game 5. Not by much, but LeBron was better.
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Kryie was the best offensive player on the court the last 3 games.
By what metric? Because every single stat says that Lebron was better than Kyrie offensively in Games 5-7. Show your work.
Also, LeBron hit the game tying 3 last night. You're acting like LeBron had a meltdown late last night and needed Kyrie to save the day. Hardly the case.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:27 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Watch the game without lebrons dick in your mouth.
And the stats don't show he was better in game 5. Kyrie scored 41 points without free throws and was 70% from the field.
When the cavs needed a bucket, Kyrie gave it to them those last 3 games.
quote]Also, LeBron hit the game tying 3 last night. You're acting like LeBron had a meltdown late last night and needed Kyrie to save the day. Hardly the case.
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He hit that shot with 5 minutes left. Quit acting like it was a last second shot. It was still a big shot, I agree. He missed his next 4 shots, then they gave the ball to Kyrie and said go score, and he did.
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what metric? Because every single stat says that Lebron was better than Kyrie offensively in Games 5-7. Show your work.
Watch the game without lebrons dick in your mouth.
And the stats don't show he was better in game 5. Kyrie scored 41 points without free throws and was 70% from the field.
When the cavs needed a bucket, Kyrie gave it to them those last 3 games.
quote]Also, LeBron hit the game tying 3 last night. You're acting like LeBron had a meltdown late last night and needed Kyrie to save the day. Hardly the case.
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He hit that shot with 5 minutes left. Quit acting like it was a last second shot. It was still a big shot, I agree. He missed his next 4 shots, then they gave the ball to Kyrie and said go score, and he did.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:28 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:Should I recommend that you not watch the game with Kyrie's dick in your mouth?
Watch the game without lebrons dick in your mouth.
Led every statistical category but Kyrie should be the MVP. Keep up the good work.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:34 pm to TeddyPadillac
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He hit that shot with 5 minutes left. Quit acting like it was a last second shot. It was still a big shot, I agree. He missed his next 4 shots, then they gave the ball to Kyrie and said go score, and he did.
Well there was only 7 points scored by either team in the last 5 minutes. 4 were from LeBron.
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And the stats don't show he was better in game 5. Kyrie scored 41 points without free throws and was 70% from the field.
That's cool. LeBron scored 41 as well and accounted for 1 more assist and 13 more boards, 4 of which were offensive rebounds. LeBron's gamescore from G5 was 39.2. Kyrie's was a little over 33.
Nice that you conveniently ignore game 6 and game 7 (the whole game, not just the only shot Kyrie hit in the last 5 minutes).
Again, Show your work. What are you looking at that says Kyrie was better offensively in games 5 through game 7?
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Watch the game without lebrons dick in your mouth.
Also, you should be aware that you are making the same argument that Skip Bayless has been making the last couple of days. Maybe you should just go ahead and admit that this is a stupid argument and that you're wrong.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:35 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, etc. don't count. Just points scored in "clutch" situations.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:36 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Just points scored in "clutch" situations.
Bron beats Kyrie in that too lolololol
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:43 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:It's interesting how difficult it is for people to admit they were wrong to complete strangers.
Maybe you should just go ahead and admit that this is a stupid argument and that you're wrong.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:51 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Should Kyrie be the mvp? No. What i said at first was a bit over the top. I tend to over exaggerate at times.
All I'm saying is what lebron did, I expected, which is crazy to say.
Watching the last 3 games I saw something from Kyrie I hadn't seen before, and saw him perform at another level that I'm used to seeing from him.
I'm used to Lebron being great. What he did was amazing, but I personally wasn't that amazed by it B/c I've come to expect that from him.
I was amazed by Kyries offensive game, as well as Tristan Thompson's defense on curry.
All I'm saying is what lebron did, I expected, which is crazy to say.
Watching the last 3 games I saw something from Kyrie I hadn't seen before, and saw him perform at another level that I'm used to seeing from him.
I'm used to Lebron being great. What he did was amazing, but I personally wasn't that amazed by it B/c I've come to expect that from him.
I was amazed by Kyries offensive game, as well as Tristan Thompson's defense on curry.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:55 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:And Kyrie has said that LeBron deserves it. Did you see him shaking his head at the LeBron stats from game 6 at the press conference?
Led every statistical category but Kyrie should be the MVP. Keep up the good work.
Posted on 6/20/16 at 1:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Kyrie played out of his mind. He was the support that Lebron and Co. needed to defeat another great team.
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