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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:32 pm to Chaplain
A big man can absolutely carry a team. And Duncan is the perfect team player to build around. He won't run any of my stars out of town. Easily Timmy here.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:44 pm to Chaplain
Duncan
I won't sound very humble here, but I've been saying Duncan over Kobe for years now, and 5 years ago, this thread was overwhelmingly in favor of Kobe, but now the tune changed.
I think a good part of it has to do with the advaancement of a lot of the metrics and understanding of efficiency. I've also been saying for years and years that Kobe isn't top 10 of all time and would just get crushed for doing so, and as time goes on, I'm seeing more and more people with that same thought.
Go me!!!
I won't sound very humble here, but I've been saying Duncan over Kobe for years now, and 5 years ago, this thread was overwhelmingly in favor of Kobe, but now the tune changed.
I think a good part of it has to do with the advaancement of a lot of the metrics and understanding of efficiency. I've also been saying for years and years that Kobe isn't top 10 of all time and would just get crushed for doing so, and as time goes on, I'm seeing more and more people with that same thought.
Go me!!!
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:48 pm to shel311
Duncan
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:51 pm to Chaplain
Jordan
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:09 pm to shel311
quote:
Duncan
I won't sound very humble here, but I've been saying Duncan over Kobe for years now, and 5 years ago, this thread was overwhelmingly in favor of Kobe, but now the tune changed.
I think a good part of it has to do with the advaancement of a lot of the metrics and understanding of efficiency. I've also been saying for years and years that Kobe isn't top 10 of all time and would just get crushed for doing so, and as time goes on, I'm seeing more and more people with that same thought.
Go me!!!
Yes. I don't think a player like Kobe will ever exist again. It's a shame that the midrange jumper is completely getting removed from the game. I'm actually not sure I completely agree with the metrics that say not to take midrange jumpers either. It opens up other shots, and if you can make a wide open one every time, the defense has to guard it. LaMarcus Aldridge is the last young NBA player with an efficient midrange jumper.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:22 pm to shel311
Well.. Kobe is still top 10 all time. And the answer isn't "Duncan easily" or "Duncan without question." It's very close. You put their accomplishments side by side and they are very similar. Duncan being a "great team player and not running other good players off" hasn't helped him win any more rings than Kobe has.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:27 pm to PhiTiger1764
I never have liked him, but Duncan is the best Power Forward of all time and a great teammate. They have the same rings but Duncan didn't get to ride another top 10 player of all time for 3 of them.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:29 pm to Mr. Wayne
Well he got Robinson, Parker, and Ginobili. Just some hall of Famers in their own right. No biggie.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:36 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Yes. I don't think a player like Kobe will ever exist again. It's a shame that the midrange jumper is completely getting removed from the game. I'm actually not sure I completely agree with the metrics that say not to take midrange jumpers either. It opens up other shots, and if you can make a wide open one every time, the defense has to guard it. LaMarcus Aldridge is the last young NBA player with an efficient midrange jumper.
John Wall has a great midrange jumper. Russ has a great midrange jumper. KD, LeBron, Marc Gasol, Tony Parker, Timmy, etc.
Not every team believes Morey ball is the way of the future.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:39 pm to Korin
Duncan.
Dude doesn't want any part of being in the spotlight.
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Duncan. Has no problem sharing the spotlight.
Dude doesn't want any part of being in the spotlight.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:39 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:Agree to disagree.
Well.. Kobe is still top 10 all time
quote:Who cares that they have the same amount of rings, that means nothing to me.
Duncan being a "great team player and not running other good players off" hasn't helped him win any more rings than Kobe has.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:49 pm to Chaplain
To start a team: Duncan simply because HOF big men are harder to find than SGs.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:53 pm to WB504
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To start a team: Duncan simply because HOF big men are harder to find than SGs.
HOF big men have a bigger impact, but HOF SG's are harder to find. Weakest position in the league right now.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:15 pm to RTR America
Duncan
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:16 pm to Mr. Wayne
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I never have liked him, but Duncan is the best Power Forward of all time and a great teammate. They have the same rings but Duncan didn't get to ride another top 10 player of all time for 3 of them.
Duncan or Shaq is a good one...
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:19 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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does not have an ounce of leadership.
Idk where you guys come up with this stuff.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:19 pm to okietiger
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Jordan
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:21 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Well he got Robinson, Parker, and Ginobili. Just some hall of Famers in their own right. No biggie.
The whole this player won because of these players argument is dumb. All greats won with other great or really good players. Dirk is really the only recent one to win without another "great" player (jason kidd was way past his prime)
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