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Kevin Love: overhyped, media-driven sensation?

Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21590 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:24 am
He is good, but has never lead a good team. Also, why would Cleveland be in such a rush to trade for him when they can simply sign him next season?

Seems like typical offseason ESPN bullstuff to me.
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:26 am to
quote:

He is good, but has never lead a good team. Also, why would Cleveland be in such a rush to trade for him when they can simply sign him next season?

Seems like typical offseason ESPN bullstuff to me.




That downvote? Its from me.

3rd in the NBA in PER last year. Behind LBJ and Durant.

Can post up, shoot mid-range, shoot 3's. A top 3 rebounder. Also a great passer. If he was playing in NY, he would be as famous as Melo, D12, etc.

Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:27 am to
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Kevin Love: overhyped, media-driven sensation?
nope
Posted by LSU Piston
The 313
Member since Feb 2008
3844 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:27 am to
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Also, why would Cleveland be in such a rush to trade for him when they can simply sign him next season?


And,

This is not as easy as you claim. Much easier for Cleveland to get him now.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

He is good, but has never lead a good team


People said the same thing about KG too. He only had one post season where his team got out of the first round in Minny. It's tough when you don't have a legit sidekick, and the West the last two-three years has been historically good. He needs help. He's a top 7-8 player in the league and his skill set is so rare - a true stretch 4 that might be the best rebounder in the league.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:30 am
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:27 am to
He averaged 26/12 last year. He was drafted by Minnesota, so he's had no choice of team. I think the guy is a very good #2 on a team. Doesn't play much defense but dude can fill it up and clean the boards.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:30 am to
Bird rights, son

Educate yoself
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53055 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:32 am to
You are going to get grilled in this thread, but one of the ESPN NBA dorks checked with a number of execs, and the overwhelming consensus was that they think Love is overrated and wouldn't trade Wiggins.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83346 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:32 am to
Trading for Love is a no-brainer - Breaking down Minnesota big man's elite game and sky-high overall value




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Because this is the Internet, camps have formed since the Cleveland Cavaliers signed LeBron James and began exploring the possibility of trading No. 1 overall pick Andrew Wiggins to the Minnesota Timberwolves as part of a package for Kevin Love. Are you #TeamWiggins or #TeamLove?

Though it's certainly possible to be part of #TeamWiggins because of belief in his upside and the value of his cheap rookie contract, the debate has revealed that not everyone is sold that Love is a superstar. As someone who's on the record believing that Love is a top-five player in the NBA and one of the most valuable to ever hit the trade market, let me explain why he is:
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 9:33 am
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
21590 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:34 am to
Trading Wiggins before the season starts is my issue. Why not at the very least play out til the trade deadline and see what the situation is?

I will give credit to Kevin Love in the fact that Anthony Davis says he is the hardest guy for him to guard.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:34 am to
quote:

You are going to get grilled in this thread, but one of the ESPN NBA dorks checked with a number of execs, and the overwhelming consensus was that they think Love is overrated and wouldn't trade Wiggins.


I don't think he's overrated, however I would rather have a tandem of Lebron and Wiggins. I don't see how Wiggins will be a bust learning from Lebron.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83346 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:36 am to
quote:

but one of the ESPN NBA dorks checked with a number of execs, and the overwhelming consensus was that they think Love is overrated and wouldn't trade Wiggins.



One NBA exec doesn't make for an overwhelming consensus
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:37 am to
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Trading Wiggins before the season starts is my issue. Why not at the very least play out til the trade deadline and see what the situation is?


And if Wiggins shits the bed and Minny decides they don't want him over the Warriors offer?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:38 am to
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HeadyBrosevelt


stick to the SEC rant

/thread
Posted by Boomtown
Member since Jan 2014
1986 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:38 am to
quote:

but has never lead a good team


How did Barkley and Moses Malone do once they were traded off their shitty teams? Maybe, you know, it's his teammates?
quote:

according to NBA.com/Stats, without Love on the floor, Minnesota has been outscored by at least 4.7 points per 100 possessions in five of his six seasons.

quote:

Love's reluctance to contest shots also kept him out of foul trouble and opponents off the free throw line. His 1.8 fouls per 36 minutes were the fewest of any regular big man last season (no one else was below 2.0 per 36), and not coincidentally, the Timberwolves allowed the league's lowest rate of free throws per field goal attempt.

Sweet gasbag hot sports take, Heady
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:39 am to
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I would rather have a tandem of Lebron and Wiggins.


youd rather have a guy who has yet to play a second of a regular season NBA game over one of the top 10 players in the league (MSB logic at its finest)
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

however I would rather have a tandem of Lebron and Wiggins
meh, Love is a proven NBA star.

He and Lebron can do some damage on offense
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:46 am to
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And if Wiggins shits the bed and Minny decides they don't want him over the Warriors offer?


If the T'Wolves would make a definitive judgement on Wiggins' potential 3 months into the regular season, then they're even more inept than everyone suspects they are. I don't think Wiggins can do anything but increase his trade value.

I suspect at this point they like what GS could give them above Cleveland's offer and they're just waiting it out to see if GS will blink. They'll take Wiggins if GS balks.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:50 am to
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I don't think Wiggins can do anything but increase his trade value.


Wiggins will probably have a good nba career but a year of playing college ball lowered the hype around the entire draft class of wiggins, Parker etc etc.

You don't think 3 months of of a rookie year can't do the same?

I'm not making any judgments on Wiggins myself, simply pointing out their is risk involved in waiting to make the trade.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19871 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:51 am to
Actualy the story on si yesterday was they couldnt find a gm in vegas who wouldn't make the deal immediately
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