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re: Keuchel lock up cy young tonight?

Posted on 10/7/15 at 12:45 am to
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 12:45 am to
Better? Really?
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 12:46 am
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12010 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 12:46 am to
I just looked at Kansas City's starting pitching. The ERA had to be above 4.00

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Plus Ned Yost is a fricking moron. You can afford to frick up in the regular season. It gets amplified in the post season. I guarantee you he makes some weird arse pitching decisions that lose games.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 12:49 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145179 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 1:06 am to
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Better? Really?

yea...

price had a lower ERA, fip, higer fWAR, better strikeout to walk ratio, and a lower era- and fip-

keuchel had a lower whip and xfip but my vote goes to price
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103106 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 1:20 am to
You need some butt lube..
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:18 am to
No David Price won it
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:27 am to
quote:

David price had a better year, but ok, guy



Eh, that's debatable.

Price has the better ERA barely, more strikeouts again by a slim margin. Keuchel has the better WHIP barely and a lower BAA. Keuchel has more IP, which counts for something... and 20 Wins, which although it shouldn't matter, is always considered.

Keuchel has a 7.2 WAR compared to Price's 6.0.

Keuchel also has a slightly better Adjusted ERA+, 162 to 161.

Heads or tails, really.
Posted by StormTiger
Norwich, England, but from TX
Member since Dec 2003
4892 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:32 am to
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And the light hitting Stros it is.


you mad bro? Because you obviously don't understand what light hitting means....

2nd in the league in OPS and HRs and 5th in the league in runs scored...sounds like light hitting me
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11351 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:50 am to
Price/Keuchel is pretty much a dead even toss up. I don't see how anyone can say the other clearly had the better year. I probably go Keuchel, but it's close.

I think Chris Sale is actually the best pitcher in the AL, but the atrocious White Sox defense will keep him from getting any consideration.
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:07 am to
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I think Chris Sale is actually the best pitcher in the AL,



fact
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31081 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:10 am to
In general, I agree that Sale is the best AL pitcher, but not this year. Most of his peripherals lined up pretty close to Price and Keuchel, but his ERA was a run higher. The best case (and most obvious) for Sale is that he strikes out a million guys each start. Even though Sale's defense blows, his FIP and xFIP were pretty close to Keuchel.

Even if you throw out ERA, poor defense, etc., I could not put him higher than third. He had a quiet a few starts where he got BOMBED. In his six of his 31 starts, he gave 5+ ER.
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I think Chris Sale is actually the best pitcher in the AL


I disagree. Price is the best SP in the AL IMO. Sale is for sure in the top 5 with others such as Keuchel, Gray, Archer, and Kluber in the discussion.

It is truly a tossup on this year though. I think Keuchel wins it by the slimmest of margins.
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Houston
Member since Apr 2012
2829 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:30 am to
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How many games did the light hitting Astros beat your Royals in the reguular season..... 4 out of 7.


It was 4 out of 6 but like the point you were making to that idiot.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7516 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:40 am to
Hope so

Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:17 am to
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wildcard



Why and how would this effect the Cy Young Award? You know playoffs and all...wildcard game is a PLAYOFF, regular season is for Cy young
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50347 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:26 am to
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And the light hitting Stros it is.



Runs scored
Astros-729
Cards-647



Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17048 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Keuchel lock up cy young tonight?


He had already locked it up before last night.
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:01 am to
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It was between the Yankees with Zero pitching or Astros who can't hit themselves out of a paper bag.




Ummm, weren't the Astros second in the AL in home runs this year?
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11857 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:38 am to
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David price had a better year, but ok, guy


More "knowledgeable sports guy" talk that Ryno is always talking about.

How anyone can say Price or Keuchel had a "better year" either way and position it as anything other than opinion is simple minded to extreme.

I'm a huge Astros homer, but I do think Price wins it -- his home/road splits were better and I think that is the tipping point.

However, I do believe Keuchel had more starts under pressure which does add significance to his year. I base this off of the stats that the Astros led the league in come from behind wins and scoring the most runs after the 7th inning.

Both pitchers had similar years. The stats could be diced and sliced to make either of them look better on paper.
Posted by LSUFanNTX
Seabrook, TX
Member since May 2005
9108 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 12:59 pm to
Maybe the Cards fan ought to worry about the NL for the next week or so.
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