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Kentucky and their 10 deep roster of future NBA players

Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:22 am
Posted by 632627
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:22 am
This was talked about all year, but honestly watching duke last night exposed the fact that you do not need to go 10 deep. Dukes may only go 7 deep, but besides towns, the duke freshman are much better than Kentuckys. Their are only 200 minutes to go around in the game, and I'd sure as hell prefer tyus jones, okafor or Winslow playing a majority of those minutes instead of rotating guys like the Harrison's, trey lyles, ulis and booker in and out. Kentucky went 10 deep because(minus towns) nobody is great, they just have a bunch of good, solid interchangeable guys. Duke doesn't need to go 10 deep because their top 7 guys can score.

Tl:dr- duke won because although a shorter rotation than Kentucky, featured more reliable scorers.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 7:23 am
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:28 am to
Easy to say stuff like this now. Where was this thread about a month ago?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:31 am to
I can see them using 10 players into the tourney, then it's time to shorten rotations
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:33 am to
Well, you only need to go five deep if your five play better than their five.


But it doesn't leave you as much margin for error.

I mean, I'd still take Kentuckys team over anyone else's from this year. Just because they finally lost to Wisconsin in their 39th game doesn't mean Duke exposed Kentuckys team or anything.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 7:48 am to
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I mean, I'd still take Kentuckys team over anyone else's from this year. Just because they finally lost to Wisconsin in their 39th game doesn't mean Duke exposed Kentuckys team or anything.


Exactly. Kentucky/Wisconsin/Duke are all very good teams capable of beating one another on any given night. I would still probably take Kentucky out of the 3 in a pick'em. That Kentucky/Wisconsin game was about as badly officiated in the 2nd half as I have ever seen. Both teams benefited from terrible calls but who knows how that game turns out without some of the awful calls impacting the flow of the game.
Posted by Kracka
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:16 am to
it's hard for me to do, but Duke was the best team last night. Their ability to score and lock down on defense was impressive all year. They shut Wisky down in the closing minutes last night. BUT, I dont think Duke matched up well at all with Kentucky. I think Kentucky's height and length would have given Duke all kinds of fits in the paint and would have negated alot of the points the perimeter guys from Duke busted on Wisky's neck.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:19 am to
It was only a matter of time before one of Kentucky's dry spells of offense came back to get them. They were phenomenal on defense all season but hit or miss on offense. It almost got then against Notre Dame, and it did against Wisconsin.
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:20 am to
Duke dismissed one of our best players mid-way through the season and got better. You don't see that often. Will miss Suliamon next year badly though.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:24 am to
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Duke dismissed one of our best players mid-way through the season and got better.


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MSUbulldogs03
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 8:25 am
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:37 am to
I dont know how many times I've explained this. Dad went to Duke. Grew up a fan and going to games. Was at the championship in '10 and last night. Sidewalk fan, sure, but only because Duke's academic requirements are on par with Harvard and Yale.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:54 am to
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Easy to say stuff like this now. Where was this thread about a month ago?
His point about bench/depth not mattering as much in the playoffs/tourney is spot on though.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12757 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:56 am to
quote:

It was only a matter of time before one of Kentucky's dry spells of offense came back to get them. They were phenomenal on defense all season but hit or miss on offense. It almost got then against Notre Dame, and it did against Wisconsin.


This is my point, all that depth and length don't mean shite when you don't have any great scorers.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12757 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:04 am to
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by DollaChoppa
Well, you only need to go five deep if your five play better than their five.


But it doesn't leave you as much margin for error.

I mean, I'd still take Kentuckys team over anyone else's from this year. Just because they finally lost to Wisconsin in their 39th game doesn't mean Duke exposed Kentuckys team or anything.



Duke didn't expose Kentucky, Wisconsin did. 2 of the 3 best players on the court in the Wisconsin/Kentucky game played for Wisconsin. Kaminksy and towns are a wash, but dekker was far better than anyone else on Kentucky. Kentucky's Naismith finalist and all American scored 2 points and was a liability every time he touched the ball. That's a recipe for disaster when you line up against a team equal to you. Wisconsin beating Kentucky wasn't a fluke, the teams were evenly matched overall, Wisconsin just had better scorers.
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:14 am to
UK was the best team in the field, they just caught Wisconsin on a bad day....shite like that happens all the time in college basketball
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19677 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:18 am to
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it's hard for me to do, but Duke was the best team last night.

Bo Ryan is a great coach but I think he missed a couple opportunities to really seize the game and I didn't like the general game plan in the closing minutes. Coach K on the other hand was damn near flawless the entire game and knew exactly what his team had to do every step of the way to win.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:25 am to
If UK could have gotten past Wisconsin they would have beat Duke handily IMO. People said all year Wisconsin and ND would be Kentucky's hardest games.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98184 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:52 pm to
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only because Duke's academic requirements are on par with Harvard and Yale.


Duke's a good school, but let's not be ridiculous.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 12:54 pm to
Kentucky was still the best team in the country.

1) Kentucky
2) Duke
3) Wisconsin
4) Arizona

And I think Arizona would split with Wisconsin if they played 10 times. Wisconsin's shooting was ridiculous in that game.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39275 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:00 pm to
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Duke's a good school, but let's not be ridiculous.


Comparing Duke's academics to Harvard and Yale is not at all ridiculous. There have been years in which the USA rankings have had Duke in the top 3.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 4/7/15 at 1:06 pm to
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If UK could have gotten past Wisconsin they would have beat Duke handily IMO.

So that's UK's consolation prize? Being able to say that Kentucky would've destroyed Duke?
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People said all year Wisconsin and ND would be Kentucky's hardest games.

Wisconsin yes, there was never any mention of ND until the brackets came out.
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