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re: Jeff Gordon's last year for a championship

Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:55 am to
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:55 am to
Absolutely, it's a little of both


TBH man I've got 2 tickets to both the Spring race and fall race at Bristol and Id be glad to let you you come with for one of them and let you have the ticket for free. I have always gone with my grandad but he's getting to the age now that he isn't going to go any longer so it's an open ticket. I know you ve never been there and it's quite the trip from where you are but as far as pure racing there's nothing like it

dega's great but it's more of a tailgating experience than anything else
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 12:57 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:58 am to
Bristol is absolutely on my bucket list Thanks man, that's quite generous of you I'll let you know if Tennessee travel is in the plans for us this year
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:03 am to
No questions asked any race man, I know the whole IRL thing is weird but I trust you seen enough pics posted

Don't forget about it, given I have enough notice the tickets yours

(Just get over that whole Johnson thing first )
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 1:06 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:08 am to
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No questions asked any race man, I know the whole IRL thing is weird but I trust you seen enough pics posted


I've rendezvoused with folks from this site before for events, and always had good experiences

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Just get over that whole Johnson thing first


You'd likely have to deal with more of Mrs. T's fawning over him than me. She be crushin' on JJ something fierce
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:11 am to
Ughhhhhh

He's too nice, like really,

frick him

It's funny bc while i don't like him, I have not one reasonable complaint against him. He is a class act and most of the reasons I don't like him are the same reasons a lot of ppl didn't like Gordon. Pretty boy, from California, never speaks his mind, wins too much, etc.

One thing I'll say for Jeff is as he's gotten older he has become more opinionated (and deservedly so). 1998 Jeff would NEVER call somebody a dipshit on National TV let alone get into a brawl with them
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:16 am to
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It's funny bc while i don't like him, I have not one reasonable complaint against him. He is a class act and most of the reasons I don't like him are the same reasons a lot of ppl didn't like Gordon. Pretty boy, from California, never speaks his mind, wins too much, etc.


I think that makes sense. He's almost too good of a goody-two shoes I've been a fan of his since he had his rookie stripes. Never thought he'd outpace Jeff for titles, though. Funny how life works out.

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One thing I'll say for Jeff is as he's gotten older he has become more opinionated (and deservedly so). 1998 Jeff would NEVER call somebody a dipshit on National TV let alone get into a brawl with them


That's true. JG has gone from mr. mild-mannered to being nice but not taking any shite probably out of necessity.

How long have you been following NASCAR, out of curiosity?
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 1:17 am
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:26 am to
Actually now that I think about it my main reason for not liking him is bc he outpaced Jeff in championships so pure Jealousy

I was pretty neutral on him til 07 then that ripped my heart out and I never wanted him to win again. I still remember where I was during the fall race at Matinsville that year me yelling at Jeff to wreck him on the final lap with the win and title up for grabs and Jeff wouldn't do it. Now im not so sure

And I've been a race fan for a long time (at least for someone my age). We don't know anyone famous or anything but my family has some racing history in it and I'm 23 years old and in 1996 for some reason I fell in love with watching NASCAR every Sunday afternoon and I picked Jeff Gordon as my driver (probably bc he was winning everything in sight).

So basically since I was 5 yo I've been a jeff Gordon fan and I am very knowledgeable of the history of the sport. I knew about NASCAR long before Tennessee or the Cardinals or any other sports team I love.

It's going to be very emotional for me when Jeff is done and I'm honestly not sure how I will handle it but I will certainly continue to follow the sport I just don't know if I will do it as intensely as I have before.

Losing Dale was a big blow to me and not trying to be ridiculous but was sort of like my JFK moment growing up (along with 911) where I will always remember where I was when I found out he didn't make it. I was just getting old enough to appreciate how good he was when he died.

To throw in a random story the first race I ever went to in person was the Spring race at Talledega in 2000. I was 8 years old and I'll let you guess who won, he only won 3 races that year and I got very, very lucky that day
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 1:29 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:40 am to
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And I've been a race fan for a long time (at least for someone my age). We don't know anyone famous or anything but my family has some racing history in it and I'm 23 years old and in 1996 for some reason I fell in love with watching NASCAR every Sunday afternoon and I picked Jeff Gordon as my driver (probably bc he was winning everything in sight).


Ah ok, gotcha. I basically was the first in my family to show an interest in racing. Used to collect die-cast cars as a kid, and Gordon's was my favorite before I even knew who the driver was. My folks moved to Mississippi when I was 12 (back in 2000), and the "bug" bit and I've been hooked ever since. A couple of my little brothers also follow the sport, but none to the degree I do.

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It's going to be very emotional for me when Jeff is done and I'm honestly not sure how I will handle it but I will certainly continue to follow the sport I just don't know if I will do it as intensely as I have before.


We're starting to get to that age (I'm 26 btw) where the athletes we grew up with are calling it quits, and it really sucks. Everyone goes through it, but man it's gonna be weird not seeing the 24 out there. NASCAR drivers have such longevity, too, you connect/identify with them more as fans than most other sports.

Hell, I already know Imma probably shed some man tears when Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili hang 'em up, too

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Losing Dale was a big blow to me and not trying to be ridiculous but was sort of like my JFK moment growing up (along with 911) where I will always remember where I was when I found out he didn't make it. I was just getting old enough to appreciate how good he was when he died.


No, I feel you. I'll always, always remember that race. That was the first and one of the only times I got my whole family together to watch a race from start to finish. One of my little brothers called Waltrip as the winner before lap 5, but man I had no idea how bad the wreck was until after the fact. Was never a huge Sr. fan, but I knew what he meant to the sport, and the pall it cast over the series was chilling.

And as much personal disdain as I might have had for Jr., when he won the Pepsi 400 that year, that was one of the most goosebump-inducing moments I've ever had watching sports. And of course the 24 won the title that year, winning @ Indy and the Glen along the way, so I've been hooked hardcore for life.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 1:50 am to
Where did you live in the Great and Glorious Landmass? (Mississippi of course)

And I actually had quite the die cast collection myself, and still do for the most part in an attic somewhere. Not sure what will come of all that

No one thought Dales wreck was that bad, I knew a lot of ppl who had years around the sport and none of them thought it was bad and neither did i. Sadly, we weren't aware of how dangerous the sport had become til that point even though Kenny Irwin/Adam Petty/ and others should've told us.

It's interesting, obviously I'm a huge sports guy but it's hard to explain what it's like to have true childhood heros as sports figures.

Not that I'm any worse than anyone else but as far as leaving the arena (and other worse fates) I've lost Eddie George, Steve McNair, Jevon Kearse, Dale, Mark McGwire, Jeff fisher, Tony LaRussa, Phil Fulmer, even Albert Pujols and I know that the love I've had for those guys will never be duplicated bc it was formed when I was under 10 years old. Jeff will truly be the last and that makes me sad but it's fitting cause he was also the first

ETA: I also remember where I was for that Pepsi 400 and That was something that will never be felt again. What a story and an excellent call from Alan Bestwick whose always been underrated IMO
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 1:52 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:01 am to
Alan Bestwick and the late Benny Parsons were always a blast to listen to

Nowadays the MRN guys kill it every week

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Where did you live in the Great and Glorious Landmass? (Mississippi of course)


Biloxi. Dad was stationed at Keesler AFB for a couple of years

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And I actually had quite the die cast collection myself, and still do for the most part in an attic somewhere. Not sure what will come of all that


Ended up collecting most of the normal starting grid circa 2003-2004. My little brothers have long since probably lost 'em, though

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Eddie George, Steve McNair, Jevon Kearse, Dale, Mark McGwire, Jeff fisher, Tony LaRussa, Phil Fulmer, even Albert Pujols and I know that the love I've had for those guys will never be duplicated bc it was formed when I was under 10 years old. Jeff will truly be the last and that makes me sad but it's fitting cause he was also the first


That's quite the list And yeah, the ones you start following during your formative years are the ones that always seem larger than life to you, even when they retire (or otherwise leave the arena).

For me, that first sports idol was David Robinson. That was during an era when most of my hoophead friends were gaga for Michael Jordan, but it was ride or die with The Admiral for me. Got a chance to meet/shake the hand of one of his teammates from that first title team (Sean Elliott) last month, and I was giddy as hell even though I'm usually quite composed in public.

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No one thought Dales wreck was that bad, I knew a lot of ppl who had years around the sport and none of them thought it was bad and neither did i. Sadly, we weren't aware of how dangerous the sport had become til that point even though Kenny Irwin/Adam Petty/ and others should've told us.


Yeah, it was such a different time. Shame it took tragedies to bring about change, but it's for the best.

It's just crazy, I mean, it wasn't that long before the Dale wreck that Bobby Labonte took a ride down the Talladega backstretch on his damn roof and walked away. Then that tap (by comparison) was enough to take out the The Intimidator.

I shudder to think of what might have happened had a wreck like Carl Edwards going into the Dega catch fence had occurred during that era.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:14 am to
It was actually Stewart (who landed on top of Labonte, his teammate) who rode around on his roof that race and I still can't believe even in modern times that Carl and Newman got through that wreck without injury. A buddy of mine was in the stands that day and couldn't describe it, the cell phone videos showing just how fast they are going are the only thing I've ever seen that does it justice and shows how a fricking motor could in the blink of an eye be in your lap


My diecast span a little more time than that, more like 97-03 but I really doubt they ever bring any money. None of them are in the box or anything


And yea, I've been extremely lucky as far as sports go, Family got me started rooting for Tenn in 97 and we all know how that turned out. Had family connections to the Cardinals and that has turned out great, I now believe every fan should get to experience something like the 2011 season and i certainly never expect to again. And the Titans are well, the Titans

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:21 am to
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It was actually Stewart (who landed on top of Labonte, his teammate) who rode around on his roof that race


Of course you're right. Memory's getting fuzzy

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My diecast span a little more time than that, more like 97-03 but I really doubt they ever bring any money. None of them are in the box or anything


Yeah, my brothers and I actually used to play with 'em. Like make model tracks on the floor of the house with masking tape and shite Definitely didn't collect 'em to sell, but man we have some great memories.

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Family got me started rooting for Tenn in 97 and we all know how that turned out. Had family connections to the Cardinals and that has turned out great, I now believe every fan should get to experience something like the 2011 season and i certainly never expect to again. And the Titans are well, the Titans


Everyone's got a cross to bear

Mom went to Michigan and Dad to A&M, so I grew up rooting for both (got a chance to see the Griese/Woodson Wolverines win it all the year after your Vols did). Been a fan of the Spurs since before Tim Duncan and the championships, too, so that's been a fun era to watch, but I know it's drawing quickly to a close. The turnaround from losing in the Finals in 2013 to winning it all against the same foe in 2014 is literally the greatest ride I have ever been on as a sports fan. They could never win another title in my lifetime and I'd be thankful I got to witness that.

Cowboys for the NFL--grew up watching Aikman/Smith/Irvin, but it's been a bit of a drag since then, obviously
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 2:22 am
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:29 am to
Couldn'tve been happier for your Spurs, rooted for them in both the last two seasons (once the beat the Grizz )

Not to be a dick but with my screename and all, the Wolverines won the Natty the year before my Vols did


And I don't want to freak you out or anything but the whole maskin tape thing, my older sister would literally imitate real life tracks with masking tape in our living room floor for me to "race" my cars around. A combination of JG, Dale, or Dale Jarrett always won

I always wanted her to do Sears Point but for some reason, that never happened

none of my friends ever gave a shite about NASCAR Yet these similarities are crazy
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 2:32 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:40 am to
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Couldn'tve been happier for your Spurs, rooted for them in both the last two seasons (once the beat the Grizz


Spurs/Grizz have had some gnarly playoff series over the years Always intense

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Not to be a dick but with my screename and all, the Wolverines won the Natty the year before my Vols did


Another for me Yeah, y'all were the first BCS champs, of course.

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And I don't want to freak you out or anything but the whole maskin tape thing, my older sister would literally imitate real life tracks with masking tape in our living room floor for me to "race" my cars around. A combination of JG, Dale, or Dale Jarrett always won

I always wanted her to do Sears Point but for some reason, that never happened




We attempted Sears Point. Once. Never again Our favorite one to imitate was Darlington.

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none of my friends ever gave a shite about NASCAR Yet these similarities are crazy




Yeah, I think my parents thought it was a passing fad for me and my brothers, and probably thought it'd pass once we moved from tLandmass, but obviously that never happened. Honestly I think my mom was happier about it than my dad, because she thought that we'd get into following boxing as a tertiary sport (my dad was/is a huge fan of pugilism).

NASCAR just appealed to me more on so many levels
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:48 am to
it's so weird how two guys with two very different backgrounds and even racial differences gravitated towards the same thing to the point of doing the same things with masking tape to the floors during their childhoods wild stuff there


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Another for me Yeah, y'all were the first BCS champs, of course.


i wasn't gonna say anything but im gonna assume that im the only one that's been sippin whiskey throughout this conversation and you keep fuggin up


if the Grizz ever see the Spurs in the playoffs again, 2011 be damned, im going to the fetal position


so weird how my family was sort of involved in the sport but never pushed me towards it yet i still fell in love and yours never was involved and doesnt seem like knew hardly anything about it yet you still fell in love with it, tells you what a great sport it can be

i wasnt really gonna say anything earlier (not that it's a big deal) but my grandad is pretty good friends with Lake Speed and he has given some pretty good insight into the world of cup racing. That is as high as we go


ETA: i actually owe racing for my existence to a point bc my dad and moms dad raced go carts together (apparently that was a highly competitive thing at one time) and that eventually led to my mom and dad getting married then the stork brought me in
This post was edited on 1/23/15 at 2:52 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:57 am to
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it's so weird how two guys with two very different backgrounds and even racial differences gravitated towards the same thing to the point of doing the same things with masking tape to the floors during their childhoods wild stuff there


Yeah, I'm sure a sociologist would have a field day with that

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i wasn't gonna say anything but im gonna assume that im the only one that's been sippin whiskey throughout this conversation and you keep fuggin up


Maybe I need a drink, huh?

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if the Grizz ever see the Spurs in the playoffs again, 2011 be damned, im going to the fetal position


I love the way MEM plays Small market, defensive minded team? So much like the "boring" Spurs of old. I love it.


Except when we have to play y'all, of course

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so weird how my family was sort of involved in the sport but never pushed me towards it yet i still fell in love and yours never was involved and doesnt seem like knew hardly anything about it yet you still fell in love with it, tells you what a great sport it can be


Yessir. Broader appeal than a lot of folks assume.

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i wasnt really gonna say anything earlier (not that it's a big deal) but my grandad is pretty good friends with Lake Speed and he has given some pretty good insight into the world of cup racing. That is as high as we go


No shite?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:59 am to
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i actually owe racing for my existence to a point bc my dad and moms dad raced go carts together (apparently that was a highly competitive thing at one time) and that eventually led to my mom and dad getting married then the stork brought me in




I wish that was still a thing. I love go karts, just don't get to do it very often. Mrs. T likes 'em, too, but not when I race her cuz I don't take it easy on 'er

I gotta run and take care of some work shite. Good talking to ya, man, as always
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 3:00 am to
no doubt man

looking forward to February
Posted by DoreonthePlains
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 3:58 am to
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I wish that was still a thing. I love go karts, just don't get to do it very often.


Tried to get into racing a bit and managed to convince my dad that I'd stick with it and do all the things necessary for him to be willing to make the investment. So we searched around and found a paved oval karting series about an hour's drive away. We scoped the place out to make sure it was legit. Turns out the guy who operated the series is a major WKA inspector who works their big weekend in Daytona. Convinced everything was in line and on the up and up, my dad buys the kart. We ran one season before the operator of the series decided it wasn't worth his time anymore and shut it down.

The kart is still up in our detached garage just sitting around. Every time I go up there, I wish I could bust it out. Competitive auto racing is a thrill like no other. Sadly, it's also made most fun karts (ya know, what you go do with your family and friends at some place that probably also has minigolf) a total drag. Too damn slow.
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 8:03 am to
Gordon is scared of this man:



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