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re: Is the Braves' move to the suburbs the start of a new trend?

Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:08 pm to
Well, that and the $400 million bribe from Cobb County.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:19 pm to
It really just depends on the city.

Most of the Braves fan base lives in the suburbs and there are enough people there to fill the seats just as well as they would at Turner Field.

In most cases, the central location is best. You have all the bars and restaurants that are there anyway and the fans can find entertainment before and after the game instead of making a 2-3 hour round trip for a 3-hour game and nothing else.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 9:50 am
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27720 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:36 pm to
Atlanta and Baltimore have two things in common

both are majority black and ghetto as frick
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8433 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 9:57 pm to
If it's a new trend, it's a tad late as most of the newer stadiums have not only been built in the city centers, but have also integrated the skylines and cityscapes into their designs. That's why TD Ameritard is all fricked-up. They were trying to emulate the MLB stadiums with the outfield opening up to the skyline. But they built it on the wrong side of the city, and now there's a constant headwind into the field.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53357 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:02 pm to
The Palace has worked in the suburbs of Detroit, probably because of a lot of money out that way and because it holds lots of concerts. But, other than that and some outliers like Jerryworld, it seems like the burbs don't work well. Look at U of Phoenix or whatever that is, everyone concedes Glendale was a bad idea.
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Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:10 pm to
The new Braves stadium being successful relies on them being able to follow through with the development around the stadium itself. This isn't some place out in the middle of nowhere. There are many bars/restaurants etc to be able to drink at before and after the game. I have been past ATT park, 49ers stadium, Glendale and those ARE in the middle of nowhere. Vinings/Smyrna/Marietta is not.

Granted the perfect place would have been by Atlantic Station.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38015 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:24 am to
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part of the fun of a stadium in the city is everyone from the burbs heading in the city and making a day of it all.


Come make a day of it in and around Turner Field!

https://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2013/11/26/turner-field-area-in-pictures-doomed-or-poised-for-growth.php















Make a day of it!

Looks like awesome fun!
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:43 am to
Should build a football stadium at Buzzard Point near the new soccer stadium



but to OP

cities are the best places for ballparks for the majority of teams, but not for all.

The Braves are the exception
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29166 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:45 am to
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Granted the perfect place would have been by Atlantic Station.


If only the Atlantic Steel plant closed 10 years earlier.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29166 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:50 am to
quote:

cities are the best places for ballparks for the majority of teams, but not for all.

The Braves are the exception


I disagree. Turner Field's out-of-the-way location and lack of earlier initiative by the CoA/Braves to develop the parking areas doomed it more that the Braves being located in the city proper. Had ACOG placed the Olympic Stadium closer to downtown or in the Atlantic Station area, we would not be having this conversation today.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 7:58 am to
well maybe so but at this point in time, it makes more sense for the Braves to be in the suburbs
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 8:05 am to
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Lol. Camden is in a phenomenal area. I loved the atmosphere there when I went.


This. The stadium is incredible and the inner harbor is really nice, it's not like it's in the ghetto.
Posted by Friendly_Freeman
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
20 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:09 am to
Pretty tired of comments like this, I mean I could be wrong on this, but how much time have you spent in either of these areas? Sure if you want to walk downtown in Atlanta late at night, you're going to have some problems, but considering I have been a resident of New Orleans, Atlanta and Washington DC (spent a ton of time in Baltimore, but never lived there) they're like any other major cities, there are areas to avoid and there are areas that are extremely safe. It comes down to common sense and familiarity with the area, something most tourists don't have/won't acquire. On another note, I think for the most part suburb stadiums aren't a good idea, but for the Braves setting up in that Vinings area could work out very nicely. Turner Field has no where to eat/drink at outside the stadium, and would have never been able to convince anyone to open up a business in that area of the city. But with the Vinings area, fans can now atleast sit at some bars and restaurants in the hours leading up to the games. Traffic will be god awful.. But probably overall a better experience than Turner.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30842 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:17 am to
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and being able to go out before or after.


That isn't really the case at Turner Field though. There is nothing there either.

City parks are the best if done right, Turner Field wasn't.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19677 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 9:24 am to
2 things here:
1)Calling where the Braves are moving the "suburbs" is a stretch, they are literally 5min away from the heart of the city.

2)Almost any team would make a move like this if given the same deal the Braves got, $400M from the city.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:13 am to
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Come make a day of it in and around Turner Field!


Thats the braves and city's frick up

in other major cities when these parks go up the whole area benefits
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:20 am to
PNC Park is downtown and it's incredible.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29166 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:28 am to
quote:

1)Calling where the Braves are moving the "suburbs" is a stretch, they are literally 5min away from the heart of the city.



Doesn't help the fanbase living in North Fulton, Gwinnett, or the east metro that has to now get stuck on I-285 during rush hour.

quote:

)Almost any team would make a move like this if given the same deal the Braves got, $400M of taxpayer money from corrupt as frick Cobb County commissioners.


FIFY
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
40971 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:36 am to
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and being able to go out before or after. that's what sucks about rangers games. there's nothing there.


Hey remember that time I spilled your beer on you with in 4 seconds of meeting at the Ballpark?

Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51824 posts
Posted on 4/28/15 at 10:44 am to
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Thats the braves and city's frick up


Not the Braves. They were promised by Atlanta that the area around Turner would be developed. They didn't keep their word, and the Braves told them to frick off.
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