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Is Steve Spagnuolo the 2nd best modern D Coordinator in the NFL?
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:12 pm
I think Belichick is pretty unrivaled in this area as a DC and a defacto DC as HC, Spagnuolo is one of the best big game coordinators I can remember and he seems to be able to adapt his scheme to his personnel.
Dick Lebeau would probably be his only real competition, but Spagnuolo has far more big game skins on the wall.
Whatever the ranking, the combo of Spagnuolo and Reed is pretty unstoppable at this point.
Dick Lebeau would probably be his only real competition, but Spagnuolo has far more big game skins on the wall.
Whatever the ranking, the combo of Spagnuolo and Reed is pretty unstoppable at this point.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:21 pm to Jack Ruby
He was terrible as the Saints DC. He had some talent, too.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:23 pm to Undertow
Really tells you the groceries the front office put on the table for him with the Saints. Too often we blame coaches when the Jimmies and Joes fail.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:30 pm to yallgood
Wade Phillips and Lovie Smith
Posted on 1/29/24 at 12:46 pm to Jack Ruby
He was great with the Giants. Was a bad hc with the rams, then was a bad fit in New Orleans! Hes found plenty of success in Kansas City since.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:18 pm to Jack Ruby
It is crazy. He was the worst defensive coordinator in the league by a mile with the Saints.
I still don’t think the jury has settled on whether he’s good or not in KC. They do make plays when needed, but they still give up plenty of yards and points. KC obviously mostly wins games because of their offense. Not only scoring, but they’re good at keeping the ball too.
I don’t think Spags is a great coach. They are good at getting sacks and Snead is a playmaker in the secondary
I still don’t think the jury has settled on whether he’s good or not in KC. They do make plays when needed, but they still give up plenty of yards and points. KC obviously mostly wins games because of their offense. Not only scoring, but they’re good at keeping the ball too.
I don’t think Spags is a great coach. They are good at getting sacks and Snead is a playmaker in the secondary
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:34 pm to Jack Ruby
I think Monte Kiffen is definitely a better DC.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:00 pm to Zzyzx
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they still give up plenty of yards and points
The Chiefs have the number two scoring defense at 16.8 points per game allowed, behind Baltimore at 16.2 points per game. They're also fourth in opponent yards per game at 294.7. The Chiefs are in the SB because of their defense, not their offense.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:07 pm to Jack Ruby
He's good but not someone I would usually think of.
Monte Kiffin
Wade Phillips
Dick LaBeau
Dan Quinn
Monte Kiffin
Wade Phillips
Dick LaBeau
Dan Quinn
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:09 pm to Zzyzx
quote:Can you define plenty? 2nd fewest yards allowed and 2nd fewest points allowed this year
They do make plays when needed, but they still give up plenty of yards and points
quote:KC was 15th in points scored. They were 26th in giveaways (gave up the 7th most turnovers)
KC obviously mostly wins games because of their offense. Not only scoring, but they’re good at keeping the ball too.
quote:This is his 5th year (coincidentally his first was KC’s first title) and he’s going for ring #3 with a defense in which the sum far exceeds the parts. What evidence does the jury lack at this point?
I still don’t think the jury has settled on whether he’s good or not in KC
quote:I would spend more time actually watching him and the Chiefs as you appear to be confusing them with another DC/team. There’s no other explanation to get it so horribly wrong
I don’t think Spags is a great coach
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:21 pm to Zzyzx
quote:
I don’t think Spags is a great coach. They are good at getting sacks
Scheme has nothing to do with sacks?
You dont sound very bright.
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:39 pm to Zzyzx
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KC obviously mostly wins games because of their offense. Not only scoring, but they’re good at keeping the ball too.
Not this year. The defense has carried this team for the entire season.
Spags is going to have his work cut out for him next year, though, because there's a good chance Chris Jones catches a bag and finds a new home. Sneed is going to cost them as well.
They also need another stud DT to balance Chris Jones (or fill in his huge gap if he leaves).
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:54 pm to Jack Ruby
he's hit or miss as a dc
he was a horrendous head coach
he was a horrendous head coach
Posted on 1/29/24 at 3:59 pm to RemouladeSawce
Sorry I only watch the Chiefs when they play a quality opponent, which is rare.
I imagine most of their good defensive numbers are boosted by playing one of the worst divisions in football, and beating up on the lowly Raiders, Chargers, and Broncos twice per season. Without the Chiefs, that division isn’t even as good as the NFC South....
The non-division opponents included the powerhouses of:
JAX
CHI
NYJ
MIN
GB
NE
CIN without Burrow
Hope they win though, I hate SF
I imagine most of their good defensive numbers are boosted by playing one of the worst divisions in football, and beating up on the lowly Raiders, Chargers, and Broncos twice per season. Without the Chiefs, that division isn’t even as good as the NFC South....
The non-division opponents included the powerhouses of:
JAX
CHI
NYJ
MIN
GB
NE
CIN without Burrow
Hope they win though, I hate SF
Posted on 1/29/24 at 5:28 pm to Cleathecat
quote:
Monte Kiffin
Wade Phillips
Dick LaBeau
Dan Quinn
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:01 am to Zzyzx
quote:what year is it?
but they still give up plenty of yards and points. KC obviously mostly wins games because of their offense.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:03 am to Zzyzx
You had two choices. You could have said my bad and backed down but you decided to double down on stupid.
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