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re: Is Shelby Miller the leading NL Cy Young award candidate?
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:08 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:08 pm to Lester Earl
He wasn't a front end of the rotation guy. That's a fact. He has been much better but still gets into trouble sometimes with pitch counts. He appears to have a working cutter now as well which is good. He needed to get away from relying on his. 4 seam. still think the better long term player is in the minors in that trade for you all.
It's still may though man. Are you really judging the long term value of a trade after a 6 weeks? He wouldn't be true ace on any contenders right now. It's also funny that you think it bothers cards fans. Congrats on the trade "win" at the 6 week Mark
It's still may though man. Are you really judging the long term value of a trade after a 6 weeks? He wouldn't be true ace on any contenders right now. It's also funny that you think it bothers cards fans. Congrats on the trade "win" at the 6 week Mark
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Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:13 pm to kilo
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He wasn't a front end of the rotation guy.
he wasn't, but the point all along was that he was young and had front end stuff.
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He wouldn't be true ace on any contenders right now.
huh? right now? he's arguably the best pitcher in the MLB
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:17 pm to kilo
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He wouldn't be true ace on any contenders right now.
Lulz.
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:22 pm to McCringleberryy
He hasn't gotten out of the 5th in 1/4 of his starts and the 6th in half.
Im sorry you dont realize thats an issue for a staff ace on a contender.
I wish we still had him given the injury to wainwright. I'm not that guy who will deny that because of some perceived buttnhurt.
Im sorry you dont realize thats an issue for a staff ace on a contender.
I wish we still had him given the injury to wainwright. I'm not that guy who will deny that because of some perceived buttnhurt.
This post was edited on 5/17/15 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:27 pm to kilo
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He hasn't gotten out of the 5th in 1/4 of his starts and the 6th in half.
lol, thats a nice way to spin stats. he went 5IP in his first 2 starts.
his last 5 starts on average: 7ip, 1.80 ERA 34K's
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:30 pm to kilo
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:31 pm to kilo
Come on now Kershaw has failed to go 7 innings in 6 of his 8 starts.... in today's specialized pitching all you need is 6 innings....
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:35 pm to tduecen
He is doing great but sometimes a change in scenery helps. You cannot assume he'd be doing the same if he stayed. Given events this year so far does loo like the cards could have really used him.
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:42 pm to kilo
Last four starts:
7 ip
9 ip
7 ip
9 ip
Damn, the bullpen must be exhausted from those four innings they had to throw in the last three weeks of Shelby Miller starts!!!
7 ip
9 ip
7 ip
9 ip
Damn, the bullpen must be exhausted from those four innings they had to throw in the last three weeks of Shelby Miller starts!!!
Posted on 5/17/15 at 6:48 pm to tduecen
To be fair, kershaw is getting frick luck and that's why he isn't going 7. You need to go 7 in a decent amount of starts
This post was edited on 5/17/15 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 5/17/15 at 7:02 pm to WestCoastAg
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kershaw is getting frick luck and that's why he isn't going 7
teams are hitting him better than ever before... .251 avg/.305 OBP/.390 slugging..... He is also walking more people per 9/innings than ever before... I mean last year he walked 31 total over 198 innings and he has 14 walks through 51 innings so far....
Posted on 5/17/15 at 7:06 pm to tduecen
he has had the second highest K/BB ratio of his career and has a FIP of 2.72 and an xFIP at 2.19. he isnt always going to have a BABIP of .349 and a HR/FB at fricking 18.5%
last year was one of the greatest single seasons in the history of professional pitching. i dont think hell ever do that again
last year was one of the greatest single seasons in the history of professional pitching. i dont think hell ever do that again
This post was edited on 5/17/15 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 5/17/15 at 7:22 pm to Rig
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Damn Lester that's straight savage
He had that bookmarked. That's how Braves fans work here. I still think his low is a 3-4 type guy and his ceiling is a #2.
It still May and Braves fans are pulling up bookmarks from the offseason in attempts at claiming trade win and playing the "gotcha" game.
Like I said before when the trade was made the real gem might be Jenkins when it's all said and done.
Posted on 5/17/15 at 8:01 pm to kilo
Lester is far from a Braves fan.
Posted on 5/17/15 at 8:06 pm to Dale Murphy
fuq bitchez get money
Posted on 5/17/15 at 9:12 pm to stlslick
Hey. Congrats on setting the world record for most selfies taken at one time. Best selfies in baseball?
Posted on 5/17/15 at 9:19 pm to kilo
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his ceiling is a #2
lol
Posted on 5/17/15 at 10:44 pm to kilo
Come on man...just admit you were wrong. Takes a bigger man to do that than it does to moonwalk all around reality.
Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:02 pm to LSUsmartass
for what its worth sure.
But ask Dontrelle Willis if all fast starts last.
But ask Dontrelle Willis if all fast starts last.
Posted on 5/17/15 at 11:24 pm to Dick Leverage
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Come on man...just admit you were wrong. Takes a bigger man to do that than it does to moonwalk all around reality.
Im not afraid to admit I'm wrong if that ends up being the case at all. I'm not like that what so ever.
Can we wait until the seasons over to digest the trade? I mean, its 6 weeks and people are in this thread comparing Miller to Kershaw for crying out loud.
Miller Starts (8) vs opponents/record:
Miami x3 (16-22)
Philadelphia x2 (16-23)
Toronto (17-22)
Reds x2 (18-20)
Miller: FIP 3.42
xFIP 3.71
BABIP .203
Lets just let the season play out and we can revisit the topic.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 12:55 am
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