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re: Is Josh Allen the most physically gifted QB ever?

Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:10 am to
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:10 am to
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hated his arse for lighting up the Saints for a decade, but Vick has to be it. His speed was unmatched and was pretty decent as a passer.


If he had worked harder on becoming a better passer he would have been a more athletic (faster) Steve Young.

Granted size is part of the athletic package so neither Young nor Vick have Allen's physical frame. But Vick at least was much faster than Allen
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:11 am to
Nick Foles.
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:22 am to
He's not #1 but he's up there, anyone saying otherwise hasn't watched him

He's fast, he's strong, his arm is fricking huge. He's a monster.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:27 am to
Yea other than Allen probably being a little bit faster. It's mahomes
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:30 am to
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Yea other than Allen probably being a little bit faster. It's mahomes

Faster, bigger, and stronger

Both are elite, but physically Allen has Mahomes beat
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:33 am to
I don’t disagree but it’s close. The pass Mahomes made in the Super Bowl last year where his body was horizontal in the air and he flung it like 40 yards on the money says he is pretty damn gifted.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 11:34 am
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:36 am to
Just to prove your point, look at how good he was once he started working on being a better passer in the pocket in his Philly days. And that is after his athleticism had declined a bit due to age and being away from the game.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:36 am to
They are both stupid gifted

But Allen’s size is what separates him from a pure physical perspective with Mahomes
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:40 am to
Agreed, and just overall running ability with his combo of size and speed. But like you said, they are both stupid gifted.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:40 am to
To highlight, Allen’s physical percentile ranks dwarf even Mahomes


This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:42 am to
Lol at that 20 yd cone shuffle score.

IWNDH (I would not draft him)

Seriously though, Allen and Mahomes are both damn impressive.
Posted by sabes que
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:46 am to
Gah, 34 inch vertical jump at his height means he can dunk with authority on the basketball court.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:48 am to
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Michael Vick as well, obviously the size isn’t there and arm not quite as strong


Ive never heard anyone knock his arm strength. The guy was wizzing balls in to his receivers that had them complaining
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:50 am to
I wasn’t knocking it, he had an absolute cannon. But Allen’s arm is stronger. It’s like a pitcher throwing 98 mph and another throwing 101. Both are insane, but one is better.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:52 am to
I said this last week.

His size, arm, speed, and body control have to make him top 3 at a min. I want to hear the other options of pure, physical talent.

Underrated on the pure talent rating scale is Michael Bishop from KSU
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 11:54 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:56 am to
Mahomes has freakish body control for sure
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:58 am to
Andrew Luck and Justin Herbert deserve an honorable mention. Both are big, strong, fast dudes with rocket arms.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 11:58 am to
NO
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Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:03 pm to
Bledsoe was a statue, but he had literally every other attribute you'd want out of a QB.

I'd also say Favre is up there, except for being a dumbass every now and then.

Rodgers is also Josh Allen with a different running style.
Posted by Froman
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:15 pm to
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It’s Vick and everyone else


I think Josh Allen might have him beat, but I pretty much agree with this.
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