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Intentional Grounding?

Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:54 pm
Refs place ball at spot of throw and they lose that down, is that even a real penalty? Shouldn't they actually add an actual punishment on top of that besides where he would have been anyways?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:56 pm to
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Refs place ball at spot of throw and they lose that down, is that even a real penalty? Shouldn't they actually add an actual punishment on top of that besides where he would have been anyways?



What? It goes from just loss of down to the yardage lost AND loss of down.
Posted by Jizzamo311
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:58 pm to
Wat????
Posted by yaherrdme
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:58 pm to
Exactly..should be at least 5yds if not 10 from the spot as well....no deterrent at all....qbs should try it all the time before taking a sack
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 7:58 pm to
If an is about to get sacked and throws it away... It's like they are just awarding the sack but not penalizing qb for a rule violation.

Holding calls is 10 Yards from spot of holding.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:00 pm to
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Holding calls is 10 Yards from spot of holding.



and you replay the down.

Intentional grounding can be 5-10 yrds typically plus loss of down.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:00 pm to
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Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:01 pm to
Ya I've always thought it was funny when announcers would say "that's a loss of down!" real seriously. As if an incompletion leads to some sort of different result
This post was edited on 10/29/15 at 8:02 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:02 pm to
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Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:03 pm to
No ideer wut that means
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:03 pm to
You said it a lot better than I did.
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:04 pm to
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Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:06 pm to
NFL don't they put ball at spot of foul and "loss of down"?
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:40 pm to
No, technically it's 10 yards or the spot, whichever is more. Usually the QB is more than 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage so it gets placed at the spot.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:41 pm to
So sometimes it's a marginal yard loss, sometimes no real penalty
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:43 pm to
And sometimes they throw a stupid INT instead of just taking the sack. It forces the QB to at least try and get it near a receiver or get out of the pocket.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:45 pm to
I get that, they should have harsher penalty on the team
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:46 pm to
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So sometimes it's a marginal yard loss, sometimes no real penalty



Similar to penalties near the endzones. As a defender, you can urinate on a guy with the offense on the 1 foot line and it's only a 6 inch penalty.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:49 pm to
Not similar but seriously, I think in those situations, the ball never seems halfway closer to line. Damn refs dey cheet
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 10/29/15 at 8:53 pm to
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So sometimes it's a marginal yard loss, sometimes no real penalty


Minimum to a ten yard loss.

Many times a sack isn't totally imminent when QBs intentionally ground. So in those cases, it's a pretty rough penalty.
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