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Intentional Grounding Rule vs NFL protection
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:54 pm
So this is the last rule where a guy needs to take a hit or take a penalty and ironically it's the QB position for that choice.
I like the rule but it's funny how you can "fair catch" with no penalty in fear you about to get pummeled but for a QB to chuck a ball to avoid a concussion you are penalized for it.
Goodell and consistency aren't synonymous
I like the rule but it's funny how you can "fair catch" with no penalty in fear you about to get pummeled but for a QB to chuck a ball to avoid a concussion you are penalized for it.
Goodell and consistency aren't synonymous
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:55 pm to gobuxgo5
Wat?
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:56 pm to gobuxgo5
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Goodell and consistency aren't synonymous
This dude gets blamed for everything
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:57 pm to castorinho
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This dude gets blamed for everything
That is what happens when you make $40 million per year
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:06 pm to gobuxgo5
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but for a QB to chuck a ball to avoid a concussion you are penalized for it.
The QB usually gets hit regardless, so they aren't avoiding a concussion at all really. And if you accept that, then the rule isn't inconsistent with player safety as injury cannot be avoided by getting rid of this penalty.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:08 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
I said I like the rule but it's the only rule that is safety or penalty in many cases and it's the QB of all positions
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:10 pm to gobuxgo5
So the quarterback should be able to waive his arm above his head and signal the play dead?
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:12 pm to TotesMcGotes
I wouldn't like that but should a punt returner be able to do so?
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:17 pm to gobuxgo5
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I said I like the rule but it's the only rule that is safety or penalty in many cases and it's the QB of all positions
Again, I disagree with your premise that it is "safety or penalty."
The defender is running full speed at the QB. He will hit the QB regardless. There is nothing that can be done by new rulemaking outside of making hits on the QB two hand touch to promote safety. They already heavily regulate how the tackle can be made.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:17 pm to gobuxgo5
Yes. There's a slight difference between a guy standing in place, looking straight up, and having guys running full speed from 40+ yards away and a quarterback who can go to the ground whenever he wants.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:19 pm to TotesMcGotes
If there was no grounding rule a QB could unload it well before a hit unless it was a late hit (although we have no problem with "clocking" which is intentional grounding with no penalty)
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:46 pm to gobuxgo5
Then a QB would get sacked like 75% less if he could just throw it out of bounds from the pocket.
Again, if you don't want to get hit, you don't have to throw it away. You can take a sack.
Again, if you don't want to get hit, you don't have to throw it away. You can take a sack.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:50 pm to gobuxgo5
The NFL would become completely unwatchable if they got rid of the grounding rule. It's already hard to stop the passing game, now you want the QBs to be able to just throw it into the ground every time they get pressured? Jesus what a shite show that would be.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:52 pm to 1ranter1
I never said they should do away with it just said it's ironic it's the QB who can get penalized for trying to avoid contact out of all positions.
Maybe I shouldn't assume everyone knows what irony is
Maybe I shouldn't assume everyone knows what irony is
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:55 pm to gobuxgo5
Maybe you should articulate your argument a little better.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:57 pm to TotesMcGotes
I never made an argument I just said it's ironic
Posted on 11/7/16 at 1:02 am to gobuxgo5
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(although we have no problem with "clocking" which is intentional grounding with no penalty)
You must be "under duress" for it to be intentional grounding; that's why a spike is legal
Posted on 11/7/16 at 4:12 am to gobuxgo5
What does Goodell have to do with anything?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:47 am to gobuxgo5
Intentional grounding is not really a penalty if it's a sure sack. Down and distance is the same either way.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 10:46 am to Master of Sinanju
Exactly... It is not a penalty....its the exact same result as getting sacked at that spot except you don't take the hit....using the OP example, it is most similar to a fair catch...all you are doing is saying "hey don't touch me, we will just take the ball right here"
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