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In light of the Duke/Miami game, should game results be allowed to be changed?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:36 pm
After the whistle has blown. Specifically in a situation where the officiating crew had obvious/egregious errors that resulted in the opposing team winning the game? This is a list of what the ACC acknowledged as errors from the end of the game last night:
SportsCenter Tweet Regarding ACC Officials Suspended
At least one of those errors would've resulted in the end of the game.
I'm assuming that it cannot be done based on current NCAA rules, the results of the Toledo appeal of their game with Syracuse being a recent reminder of that. LINK
And I understand it could be a slippery slope given when the officiating offenses occurred in the grand scheme of a game and that we'd be expecting the same people who employee these officials to make that decision.
But is it something that should be reconsidered/revised? Or does it just not happen enough for it to be worth opening the flood gates to potential unnecessary appeals and the like?
SportsCenter Tweet Regarding ACC Officials Suspended
At least one of those errors would've resulted in the end of the game.
I'm assuming that it cannot be done based on current NCAA rules, the results of the Toledo appeal of their game with Syracuse being a recent reminder of that. LINK
And I understand it could be a slippery slope given when the officiating offenses occurred in the grand scheme of a game and that we'd be expecting the same people who employee these officials to make that decision.
But is it something that should be reconsidered/revised? Or does it just not happen enough for it to be worth opening the flood gates to potential unnecessary appeals and the like?
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:38 pm to BluegrassBelle
Miami deserved to win that game. Duke didn't. What people fail to realize is that the ONLY reason there were 6 seconds left for a kickoff and not 0 seconds is because of shitty duke clock mgmt.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:40 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:
For those who have asked, the rules do not give the league the authority to overturn the outcome of the game despite the errors. -Espn
I think the Playoff committee could ignore the results of the game as far as ranking and bowl placement goes.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:47 pm to BluegrassBelle
Nick Marshall was past the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:48 pm to BluegrassBelle
No.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:Are we supposed to ignore the calls Duke got on the previous possession?
After the whistle has blown. Specifically in a situation where the officiating crew had obvious/egregious errors that resulted in the opposing team winning the game? This is a list of what the ACC acknowledged as errors from the end of the game last night:
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:51 pm to BluegrassBelle
How can the 12th man on the field be considered a "dead ball" foul since he was on the field PRIOR to the play being over? The player was in the field of play at the 10 yard line while the ball carrier was at the 5.
The only way that becomes a dead ball foul is if the play AUTOMATICALLY becomes a "dead" as soon as the non-player enters the playing field.
The only way that becomes a dead ball foul is if the play AUTOMATICALLY becomes a "dead" as soon as the non-player enters the playing field.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:52 pm to BluegrassBelle
Let's start by holding officials accountable for willful or negligent incompetence.
Maybe losing your job would deter you from being an idiot.
I think over-turning outcomes of games is a dangerous precedent.
Maybe losing your job would deter you from being an idiot.
I think over-turning outcomes of games is a dangerous precedent.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:54 pm to BluegrassBelle
Yes. The precedent angle is dumb. This is the only game I've ever seen where the result should be changed. The 5th down Colorado game would also apply. But in no way would I mess with a result like Miami Ohio state, which was a judgement call.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 12:58 pm to Socratics
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I think the Playoff committee could ignore the results of the game as far as ranking and bowl placement goes.
Except Duke had a shot at the ACC championship game. That's going to be one fewer game for them to be considered for and the committee sure as hell isn't going to give them something over the ACC champ.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:16 pm to floridatigah
quote:Why would you only look at calls on the last possession?
This is the only game I've ever seen where the result should be changed
There's a whole game worth of calls to review, it makes no sense to reverse a game based on 1 play.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:24 pm to shel311
Because the outcome of the game is determined on the final play.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:28 pm to floridatigah
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Because the outcome of the game is determined on the final play.
There were 2 questionable, possibly incorrect calls on the previous possession that would have determined the outcome of the game as well, both went against Miami.
This post was edited on 11/1/15 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:31 pm to shel311
Those were judgement calls. You're getting too rulesy. I want common sense, if everyone can agree the outcome of the game was painfully wrong then change it. Just get it right.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:33 pm to floridatigah
Couldn't disagree more.
You can't take back one call and ignore a game's worth of calls(some that would have determined the outcome of the game) , it just don't make any sense.
You can't take back one call and ignore a game's worth of calls(some that would have determined the outcome of the game) , it just don't make any sense.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What people fail to realize is that the ONLY reason there were 6 seconds left for a kickoff and not 0 seconds is because of shitty duke clock mgmt.
WTF? You're saying Duke deserved to lose because they mismanaged the clock in scoring with 6 seconds left instead of 0? Am I reading that right?
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:35 pm to shel311
C'mon shel, the last play is a bit different. Overruling the result because of that play won't cause some wrinkle in time or something.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:35 pm to shel311
It's about the type of call. A flag was reviewed which wasn't allowed to be reviewed. I'm not talking about pass interference.
If it was just the runners knee being down I would reluctantly agree with you.
If it was just the runners knee being down I would reluctantly agree with you.
This post was edited on 11/1/15 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:35 pm to BluegrassBelle
No, it'd erase all the celebrating the winning team did.
Posted on 11/1/15 at 1:37 pm to slackster
quote:How?
C'mon shel, the last play is a bit different
If Miami gets the int on the previous possession, the game is over.
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