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re: If you were an NFL GM/owner, would you sign Kaepernick?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:07 am to HogFanfromHTown
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:07 am to HogFanfromHTown
Based simply off talent and for a backup position? Absolutely
Accounting for all the business, salary cap, free agent, contractual, personnel elements? Unsure, but if financially feasible yes. NFL's all "what have you done for me lately" and Kap's reaching age 30 year and hasn't won squat since 2013, he's not starting QB caliber anymore that's fact.
Accounting for all the business, salary cap, free agent, contractual, personnel elements? Unsure, but if financially feasible yes. NFL's all "what have you done for me lately" and Kap's reaching age 30 year and hasn't won squat since 2013, he's not starting QB caliber anymore that's fact.
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:08 am to silverdude
quote:No one has yet.
you cant say no to a starter caliber QB
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:08 am to HogFanfromHTown
Probably NO since he's a huge distraction. I don't care whether he stands, sits, or shits for the anthem, but I don't want the distraction.
We also don't know how much Kap is demanding money wise. Nobody can have an opinion on this BS unless he or she knows the $$$$'s Kap is demanding.
We also don't know how much Kap is demanding money wise. Nobody can have an opinion on this BS unless he or she knows the $$$$'s Kap is demanding.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:08 am to HogFanfromHTown
If I was an owner and could get him for what I think he's worth as a decent quarterback, yes. Sure he's a distraction, but now it's only because the media constantly makes him one. I think he understands what he has to not do if he wants to play football again, and for that I think he will end up getting a shot with someone.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:09 am to TheXman
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There is absolutely no way to justify signing him based on his talent
Best post in this thread.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:10 am to King George
quote:It's legit laugh out loud funny if you don't think he's one of the 32 best QBs out there.
No one has yet.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:12 am to shel311
quote:
Best post in this thread.
He's not going to win a division with any team looking for a quarterback, and he has way to many negatives that outweigh the few positives he brings. Why would an owner do that?
Do you realize how many NFL fans absolutely loathe him?
The only two teams I could see him going to and being successful are Carolina and Seattle because he brings a few of the same things to the table as Wilson and Newton.
But unless one of those guys gets hurt, no need to sign him. Although people up in Seattle probably love Kaepernick so maybe they should sign him. Carolina would be a PR disaster.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:13 am to NotoriousFSU
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I don't believe the question should be whether or not the NFL needs Colin Kaepernick, but whether or not Colin Kaepernick needs the NFL.
Is Kapernick looking for NFL employment? Yes, so obviously Kap needs the NFL. That's never been a question. Lol, the question has been and always will be the former.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:17 am to HogFanfromHTown
I don't think he's capable of being a starter, and it's obvious he doesn't want to be a backup, so no.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:18 am to HogFanfromHTown
I think there are a lot of variables. There aren't many teams looking for a starting QB and bringing him in as the backup causes additional distractions (aside from the political stuff). From playing ability alone, I think he's definitely one of the best 64 QBs.
Many owners in conservative areas won't even consider it, which makes sense and you can't fault for that reasoning. Ultimately, all it takes is one organization. Maybe Miami?
To answer the question, I probably would not unless my organization had a need for a starting QB and my coaching staff felt good about his talent and 'fit' in the locker room.
Many owners in conservative areas won't even consider it, which makes sense and you can't fault for that reasoning. Ultimately, all it takes is one organization. Maybe Miami?
To answer the question, I probably would not unless my organization had a need for a starting QB and my coaching staff felt good about his talent and 'fit' in the locker room.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:19 am to Jcorye1
quote:He's one year removed from being a starter...
I don't think he's capable of being a starter
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:19 am to TheXman
quote:Add him to the long list of starting QBs who won't win a division.
He's not going to win a division with any team looking for a quarterback,
quote:That's a different argument. What you quoted was me mocking a guy who insinuated he wasn't one of the best 32 QBs in the leauge.
Do you realize how many NFL fans absolutely loathe him?
He is, that's not even up for debate.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:19 am to TheXman
quote:
Do you realize how many NFL fans absolutely loathe him?
I really don't. I haven't met one in an area that actually has an NFL team. In Arkansas people hate the shite out of him, but none of those fans buy NFL tickets. Here in Houston, I litteraly have discussions all the time about how much better the Texans would be with Kap.
quote:
He's not going to win a division with any team looking for a quarterback
Before the Texans drafted Watson, they were looking for a QB and I'd bet my left nut they would win the division with Kap. They won it with freaking Brock Oswieler.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:20 am to Jcorye1
quote:As in, based on how good he is?
I don't think he's capable of being a starter
I'm going to assume/hope you mean just based on no one will sign him as a starter.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:21 am to shel311
No you did the to me saying there is no way to justify signing him if you are an owner which is 100% true.
These are all businesses and the owners are always going to play it safe, and not signing Kaepernick is the safe, and wise business move.
to me saying there is no way to justify signing him if you are an owner which is 100% true. These are all businesses and the owners are always going to play it safe, and not signing Kaepernick is the safe, and wise business move.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:24 am to TheXman
quote:Wait wait wait.
No you did the
You left out one key detail from that quote, you said "based on talent"
Yea, I laughed at you thinking there was "absolutely" no way he was good enough to be signed based on talent. That's absurd.
quote:What does that have to do with whether he's good enough to be signed "based on talent?"
These are all businesses and the owners are always going to play it safe, and not signing Kaepernick is the safe, and wise business move.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:26 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:He had a 90 QB Rating last season and 4:1 TD:INT ratio, but guys are saying he's not capable to be a starter and not one of the 32 best QBs in the league.
He's one year removed from being a starter...
Just a bit biased.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:28 am to HogFanfromHTown
Not a chance
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:29 am to shel311
We know he opted out of a large contract.
Surely he's not trying to be paid like an ordinary backup, right? We can assume that much.
Surely he's not trying to be paid like an ordinary backup, right? We can assume that much.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 10:29 am to shel311
Because his 'talent' level does not overcome everything else he brings to the table which is all negative.
Is that hard to understand for you? I made a reference to Cam Newton saying if he was the same player with the same outspoken political views, then of course teams would be looking to sign him.
But he's nowhere close.
Is that hard to understand for you? I made a reference to Cam Newton saying if he was the same player with the same outspoken political views, then of course teams would be looking to sign him.
But he's nowhere close.
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