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re: If Winston is charged will they be left out of the BCSNC?

Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:09 am to
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:09 am to
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They aren't a top FIVE team in the country without him, but they'll be unbeaten so they get in.

As they should
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:12 am to
If you go by the flawed logic of "most deserving" over "best".
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:23 am to
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If you go by the flawed logic of "most deserving" over "best".

Yea. I do. Since that is what makes sense.. Results on the field matter more than having the best players.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:23 am to
That is your opinion.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:25 am to
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Absolutely not. What if he isn't suspended, they beat duke, and he tears his acl? You don't undermine the accomplishments of an entire team if one player can't play.


i'm not a Bama fan and they wouldn't even be the next team in line...

there is precedent for it in the NCAA basketball tournament... teams have been dropped in seeding due to key injuries.

but this is why we need a playoff. if there was the 4 team playoff this year, florida state without winston might deserve to be in if they beat Duke. but this year you have to be top 2...

the fact that he might be charged with rape is reason enough to leave them out, but to be the Heisman-elect, making the offense go, in football terms, if he was merely injured, out for the BCSNCG, and not charged with anything, that would be reason enough to drop them.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 11:28 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:26 am to
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That is your opinion

LSU is underdogs in Vegas to 6 teams in the country. You think we should be ranked #7? I don't.

What are your thoughts on the NCAA basketball tournament? How about when the #9 team in the Big East UConn won it all a couple years ago. Bet you hated that shite huh..

ETA: Do you not think Bama is the best team in the country? I do.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 11:34 am
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:35 am to
The computers don't care about rape.

Voters won't penalize the institution for what Winston did in this scenario.

So no. No chance they get left out if they beat Duke and Winston gets charged.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:36 am to
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ETA: Do you not think Bama is the best team in the country? I do.



I think Bama and FSU with Jameis are the two best teams.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:39 am to
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I think Bama and FSU with Jameis are the two best teams.

Agreed.
So you also believe that even if Ohio State wins and Auburn wins the SEC, Bama should play in the BCSNCG?

I mean do you not see how ridiculously flawed this logic is? What if FSU with Jameis plays OSU for the title and OSU wins? You just said FSU is the best team in the country. Should we just give them the crystal football anyway?

From now on we just shouldn't play any games at all and award crystal footballs based on consensus recruiting rankings.
This post was edited on 12/5/13 at 11:49 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:47 am to
Anyone who votes differently because a player(s) is out(for any reason) is a moron.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:50 am to
Even if you believe that Bama is the best team in the country, you can still believe that they should not play in the title game based on the system

Yes it's flawed but everyone plays by the same rules. If we were to believe conventional wisdom last week, the gumps should have won by 3 scores.

Beat the teams you are supposed to be and you'll have no worries, especially in the SEC.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:55 am to
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Anyone who votes differently because a player(s) is out(for any reason) is a moron.


you're a moron if you vote for a team based on a guy who won't be there for the game you're voting for

and we're not talking about a backup DE either
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:56 am to
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If you go by the flawed logic of "most deserving" over "best".


The best teams on paper should automatically go to the NC? You're saying Notre Dame was really #2 last year?

Gump a little harder.
Posted by ZereauxSum
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 11:57 am to
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you're a moron if you vote for a team based on a guy who won't be there for the game you're voting for


IMO, you're not voting to put someone in the game, you're looking at that team's body of work and deciding rank based on what they've done. Not what you think they will be able to do.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:02 pm to
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IMO, you're not voting to put someone in the game,


but that's what you do on the last poll whether you like it or not.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 12:05 pm to
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Even if you believe that Bama is the best team in the country, you can still believe that they should not play in the title game based on the system

Yea I agree. He doesn't.
Posted by Sev09
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:25 pm to
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If Winston is charged will they be left out of the BCSNC?


WTF no. Stop always trying to back your way into an NC appearance, Gump.
Posted by oompaw
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Posted on 12/5/13 at 1:27 pm to
Doesn't matter...they beat Duke they're in.
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