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If MMA is much bigger than boxing, why did their star have to box to make that much $
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:39 pm
Seriously not a flame against MMA our it's quality of fighters.
I know MMA fans are passionate about their sport as they should be but if boxing is dead why did the biggest MMA star have to go to boxing to get a serious pay day?
BTW, I hope CM knocks Floyd TF out but I don't see it.
BTW II, Floyd is a pussy for fighting a boxing novice at 154 but wouldn't fight an undefeated world champion at 154 in GGG.
I know MMA fans are passionate about their sport as they should be but if boxing is dead why did the biggest MMA star have to go to boxing to get a serious pay day?
BTW, I hope CM knocks Floyd TF out but I don't see it.
BTW II, Floyd is a pussy for fighting a boxing novice at 154 but wouldn't fight an undefeated world champion at 154 in GGG.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 12:40 pm
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:41 pm to bamarep
Because Floyd mayweather like what??? Is this a serious question?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:41 pm to bamarep
No one ever said MMA fighters make as much money as boxers.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:43 pm to bamarep
An MMA fighter is getting a retired Mayweather his biggest payday ever.
MMA has come a long way.
MMA has come a long way.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:47 pm to bamarep
Because the UFC makes the money, not the fighters.
ETA: I calculated this earlier this year.
Rough numbers. Conor grossed at a minimum $247 million in PPV buys for the UFC in 2016.
UFC 196 = 1,317,000 PPV buys.
UFC 202 = 1,500,000 PPV buys.
UFC 205 = 1,300,000 PPV buys.
Total 2016 PPV buys = 4,117,000.
At $60 per PPV (this is the regular PPV price; not sure if these PPV buys include bars and restaurants which have to pay a higher price), that totals $247,000,000 in gross revenue off PPV buys. Doesn't include gate and merchandise.
ETA: I calculated this earlier this year.
Rough numbers. Conor grossed at a minimum $247 million in PPV buys for the UFC in 2016.
UFC 196 = 1,317,000 PPV buys.
UFC 202 = 1,500,000 PPV buys.
UFC 205 = 1,300,000 PPV buys.
Total 2016 PPV buys = 4,117,000.
At $60 per PPV (this is the regular PPV price; not sure if these PPV buys include bars and restaurants which have to pay a higher price), that totals $247,000,000 in gross revenue off PPV buys. Doesn't include gate and merchandise.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:49 pm to stuntman
quote:
s biggest payday ever
Floyd made more on the PAC fight.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:50 pm to bamarep
Can't say for sure until the numbers are in. Although I doubt it will surpass the FM-Pac numbers.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:50 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Because the UFC makes the money, not the fighters.
And they say boxing promoters are crooks (which they are).
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:51 pm to bamarep
An organization like the UFC is good for the fans, but not for the fighters.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 12:53 pm to bamarep
Floyd Mayweather: “All I gotta say is this: Why is it that every time Conor McGregor goes out there and fights, Dana White ends up making more money?”
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:03 pm to bamarep
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And they say boxing promoters are crooks (which they are).
The UFC is essentially a giant promoter. They've signed all of the best fighters so they hold all of the cards over them.
In boxing if you're good enough and don't like your promoter you can just go to another one and still make your money.
There's upsides and downsides to both arrangements. UFC has all of the fighters so they give the fans the fights they want to see when they want them. In boxing as we know since every promoter has their own interest, many times the best fights are delayed for a while or don't ever happen.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:08 pm to bamarep
bc it's the only way the fight will be even semi-watchable
If they fought using MMA rules CM would have Floyd tapping out in 5 seconds.
If they fought using MMA rules CM would have Floyd tapping out in 5 seconds.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:33 pm to bamarep
Ok, second biggest.
Point remains. No way Tyson would have gotten a big payday vs Bas Rutten back in the day.
McGregor is going to get worked, but the only reason he has this opportunity in the first place is because of how big MMA has become.
Point remains. No way Tyson would have gotten a big payday vs Bas Rutten back in the day.
McGregor is going to get worked, but the only reason he has this opportunity in the first place is because of how big MMA has become.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:35 pm to stuntman
So riddle me this, why do fighters choose to go the mma route, over boxing?
It lends me to believe the better athletes would be in boxing........
It lends me to believe the better athletes would be in boxing........
Posted on 6/15/17 at 1:42 pm to lsupride87
Great question.
I'm sure there are all kinds of reasons, but one I know of in my own experience is that a lot of guys don't want to end up being punch drunk.
You take a whole lot more headshots in your career as a boxer. Also, during fights, you get time to "recover" even after you've already been concussed. That doesn't happen in MMA.
If money is the only concern, then yep, boxing is the way to go.
I'm sure there are all kinds of reasons, but one I know of in my own experience is that a lot of guys don't want to end up being punch drunk.
You take a whole lot more headshots in your career as a boxer. Also, during fights, you get time to "recover" even after you've already been concussed. That doesn't happen in MMA.
If money is the only concern, then yep, boxing is the way to go.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 3:49 pm to stuntman
I read something recently that said we are essentially too prosperous as a Country for boxing anymore. You have to be debilitatingly poor to allow someone to continually punch you in the head. That is why the majority of fighters are coming out of impoverished or 3rd world countries and look at it as their only way out. Like the NBA for our Urban poor.
I know that many of the original UFC fighters were part-time and came from educated backgrounds (NCAA wrestling). It is far more technical than boxing when you consider all the different combat arts that are showcased in MMA. I don't know if the current generation of MMA fighter is the same as the original UFC guys, but they are far more diverse in skill than the average boxer. Also, strikers are born, not made. So someone can get better on the ground, Jui-Jitsu, etc., it is very hard to improve punching power substantially.
Boxing and Combat Sports are still huge outside of the US. The real decline of boxing is the heavyweight division in the US. The lighter weight classes have seen tremendous fighters recently. Sadly, almost none from the U.S.
I know that many of the original UFC fighters were part-time and came from educated backgrounds (NCAA wrestling). It is far more technical than boxing when you consider all the different combat arts that are showcased in MMA. I don't know if the current generation of MMA fighter is the same as the original UFC guys, but they are far more diverse in skill than the average boxer. Also, strikers are born, not made. So someone can get better on the ground, Jui-Jitsu, etc., it is very hard to improve punching power substantially.
Boxing and Combat Sports are still huge outside of the US. The real decline of boxing is the heavyweight division in the US. The lighter weight classes have seen tremendous fighters recently. Sadly, almost none from the U.S.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 4:05 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
Because the UFC makes the money, not the fighters.
this is the answer. it isnt complicated
Posted on 6/15/17 at 4:11 pm to lsupride87
quote:
So riddle me this, why do fighters choose to go the mma route, over boxing?
I don't know.
I think you fall down to MMA, same way athletes play football because they're not good enough to play basketball or baseball.
I wouldn't think anyone would opt for MMA if they could box at an elite level.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 6/15/17 at 4:14 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
Because the UFC makes the money, not the fighters.
ETA: I calculated this earlier this year.
Rough numbers. Conor grossed at a minimum $247 million in PPV buys for the UFC in 2016.
UFC 196 = 1,317,000 PPV buys.
UFC 202 = 1,500,000 PPV buys.
UFC 205 = 1,300,000 PPV buys.
Total 2016 PPV buys = 4,117,000.
At $60 per PPV (this is the regular PPV price; not sure if these PPV buys include bars and restaurants which have to pay a higher price), that totals $247,000,000 in gross revenue off PPV buys. Doesn't include gate and merchandise.
Cut your number in half because the UFC splits the revenue from the PPV buys with the cable providers.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 4:18 pm to Goldrush25
quote:I don't think this is true. Of course there are some that started in boxing and knew they weren't good enough and transferred, but those guys are few. I can only think of a handful of guys and girls that have legit amateur boxing experience.
I think you fall down to MMA
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