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re: If ESPN redid the most prestigious college football programs of all time list..

Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/26/12 at 7:50 pm to
I think USC has the most 1st team all americans @ 146

Heisman Trophy Winners by School

Notre Dame: 7
Ohio State: 7 (Note: Though Ohio State has won seven trophies, the school has just six winners, as Archie Griffin won the award twice)
USC: 7
Oklahoma: 5
Army: 3
Florida: 3
Michigan: 3
Nebraska: 3
Auburn: 3
Florida State: 2
Georgia: 2
Miami: 2
Navy: 2
Texas: 2
Wisconsin: 2
Yale: 2
Alabama: 1
Baylor: 1
BYU: 1
Boston College: 1
Colorado: 1
Chicago: 1
Houston: 1
Iowa: 1
LSU: 1
Minnesota: 1
Oklahoma State: 1
Oregon State: 1
Penn State: 1
Pittsburgh: 1
Princeton: 1
South Carolina: 1
SMU: 1
Stanford: 1
Syracuse: 1
Texas A&M: 1
TCU: 1
UCLA: 1
This post was edited on 5/26/12 at 7:59 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:09 pm to
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24 years since a championship takes you out of the discussion of being in the top 2.


So its Notre Dame's fault coach X and writer X choose FSU over them in 1993?
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:11 pm to
Most 11+ Win Seasons

Most 11 win seasons


Oklahoma 19
Alabama 15
Penn State 15
Nebraska 13
Southern California 12
Florida St. 11
Miami (FL) 11
Michigan 10
Ohio St. 10
Texas 10
Tennesse 8
Georgia 8
LSU 7
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:22 pm to
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Would be higher.


On espn? Nah why play up the team NBC sports has the deal with
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:24 pm to
Only someone with a goldfish memory and no access to real stats would put bama above Michigan ND and USC
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/26/12 at 8:33 pm to
If Sid's rating service re-did their list of most prestigious CFB programs of all time:

1. LSU





The rest.



What is the point of this thread?

This post was edited on 5/26/12 at 8:34 pm
Posted by island
Remlap
Member since Jul 2011
1196 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 10:31 am to
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Only someone with a goldfish memory and no access to real stats would put bama above Michigan ND and USC


Posted by island
Remlap
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Posted on 5/27/12 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/27/12 at 10:51 am to
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If ESPN redid the most prestigious college football programs of all time list..


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Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 11:36 am to
ESPN did them at the end of 2009...

You're saying two full years of college football is now enough to change that ranking over all of history?

So now, Bama jumps to #1 from #6 because of the last two years of Saban? What a ridiculous homer post if I ever saw one.

1. Oklahoma Sooners
Total points: 1,968
Positives: When you look at the big picture of college football since 1936, no program has achieved greatness as consistently as Oklahoma. We didn't even count the fact that Oklahoma owns the longest win streak in FBS history (47) or leads the nation with a .765 winning percentage since World War II. The 1956 Oklahoma team catapulted the Sooners past Notre Dame to the top of the Prestige Rankings, and it's been in the top spot ever since. OU's seven national titles have spanned four decades. The Sooners have finished in the final poll's top 5 an astounding 29 times. But the real fuel for OU's rise to the top of our rankings has been its conference dominance. The Sooners finished the regular season with at least a share of their conference's best record a stunning 39 times, seven more than any other program in the country.

2. USC Trojans
Total points: 1,897
Positives: With 513 points in 11 seasons (almost 100 more than its nearest competitor), the Trojans have been the undisputed king of the BCS era. USC's special 2004 season accounted for 118 points, which is one point shy of '93 Florida State's Prestige Rankings season record. It has enjoyed the services of an astounding 17 consensus All-Americans in the last seven seasons. USC has finished in the top 3 in annual Prestige Points in each of those seven seasons. USC also is the top-scoring program in the 1970s and is tied with Notre Dame and Ohio State for the most all-time Heisman winners with seven.

LINK
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/27/12 at 11:37 am to
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OU would still be number 1, but Bama would be in the top 5.
Posted by 228Tiger
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 11:50 am to
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This is not all time. This is prestige, accounting for Bowl wins, championships, heisman winners, all americans, and draft picks..



Yeah, we know..you want to think bama is the pinnacle of college football and no other team can summit that. Truth is, there are a lot of teams that trump Bama in "prestige"
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:08 pm to
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ALL TIME RECORDS


All time records doesn't mean shite when some of these teams played cupcake schedules.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:14 pm to
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All time records doesn't mean shite when some of these teams played cupcake schedules.


Except in twist...for most of CFB history, Michigan deserves their wins as having a hard schedule and the power of the Midwest...while Bama had some dubious winning records scheduling the segregated South and an SEC that was NOT the black dominant SEC of today. I would weigh Michigan, ND and tOSU and USC and OU's power wins and schedules WAY over Bama for most of their history until the 80's and the SEC was fully integrated and producing better teams finally.
This post was edited on 5/27/12 at 12:15 pm
Posted by island
Remlap
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:24 pm to
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ESPN did them at the end of 2009...


Nice try but the article was posted in January. Since then Bama has had 2 Nattys and a heisman and lots of first rounders.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:28 pm to
Although LSU and Arkansas are now top ten teams, in the 1990's neither was a top 50 both finishing sub .500 for the decade. All depends on how we define cupcake.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:35 pm to
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Since then Bama has had 2 Nattys and a heisman and lots of first rounders.




Now you have two titles that actually count (replacing the '73 and '78 ones you claimed but didn't count) - so really, you've not gained any ground.
Posted by KillianRussell
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
7319 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 12:36 pm to
Since what year ?
Now we are talking about the most prestigious program since 2009?
I doubt you get an argument about that.
This post was edited on 5/27/12 at 12:41 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/27/12 at 1:06 pm to
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All-time, excluding Princeton and Yale, would look more like this:

Michigan
Notre Dame
Bama
OU
USC


I agree with this.Except Ohio St. in place of OU.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202921 posts
Posted on 5/27/12 at 1:07 pm to
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This is not all time.


So why does YOU title state this???????
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