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If Ernie Johnson Said The Same Comments Barkley Said, Would He Still Have A Job?

Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:44 pm
Barkley said blacks are brainwashed by other blacks to value street cred over intelligence. He spoke the truth, btw.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119119 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:47 pm to
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Barkley said blacks are brainwashed by other blacks to value street cred over intelligence.


This is true, but Ernie can't say it. PC rules the world.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141896 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:47 pm to
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Barkley said blacks are brainwashed by other blacks to value street cred over intelligence. He spoke the truth
I can't handle the truth
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10961 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:57 pm to
You know how you can call your family, wife, kids, etc. crazy or worse, but if someone else does it you get mad? Certain people get certain allowances for certain things. If that keeps you up at night, you may just want to remove yourself from the world now.
Posted by Atari
Texas
Member since Dec 2009
3719 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:01 pm to
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You know how you can call your family, wife, kids, etc. crazy or worse, but if someone else does it you get mad? Certain people get certain allowances for certain things. If that keeps you up at night, you may just want to remove yourself from the world now.


Yup, I'll call my mother a bitch when I feel like it, but if someone else does it around me I will fight them. There are just some things you can do/say about your own group that aren't ok for outsiders to say.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:06 pm to
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You know how you can call your family, wife, kids, etc. crazy or worse, but if someone else does it you get mad? Certain people get certain allowances for certain things. If that keeps you up at night, you may just want to remove yourself from the world now.

Perfectly said, well maybe a bit strong at the end.

Some people worry a little too much about this subject, it feels like the motive is they just really want to be able to talk bad about black people lol.
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:07 pm to
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You know how you can call your family, wife, kids, etc. crazy or worse, but if someone else does it you get mad?


No. I'm not a hypocrite.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71595 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:08 pm to
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You know how you can call your family, wife, kids, etc. crazy or worse, but if someone else does it you get mad? Certain people get certain allowances for certain things

Just like how if Ernie had said to Charles and Kenny what Doug Gottlieb said nobody would've blinked.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
141896 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:08 pm to
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it feels like the motive is they just really want to be able to talk bad about black people lol
yeah it's not like we have freedom of speech or equal rights or any of that shite in America
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:10 pm to
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You know how you can call your family, wife, kids, etc. crazy or worse, but if someone else does it you get mad? Certain people get certain allowances for certain things. If that keeps you up at night, you may just want to remove yourself from the world now.

Well said
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
5976 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:12 pm to
So Barkley is related to all black people?
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33004 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:53 pm to
Barkley is black so its acceptable.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:01 pm to
Technically all people are related and part of the same species so it should be okay to call a fellow human something according to that logic.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:19 pm to
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Barkley is black so its acceptable.
exactly, I find it so weird that people can't get over this.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 3:20 pm to
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yeah it's not like we have freedom of speech or equal rights or any of that shite in America

So because of freedom of speech, people always say exactly what's on their mind? Thats the logic you wanna run with?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 5:48 pm to
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yeah it's not like we have freedom of speech or equal rights or any of that shite in America


If we really had freedom of speech a white guy could have said what Barkley said without public shaming.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110822 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 6:04 pm to
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If we really had freedom of speech a white guy could have said what Barkley said without public shaming. 
Yea, Kafka whiffed on that one.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2463 posts
Posted on 10/26/14 at 6:10 pm to
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If we really had freedom of speech a white guy could have said what Barkley said without public shaming.


Just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you have to right to escape non-legal consequences. Public Shamming is a form a freedom of speech. All freedom of speech means is you won't be thrown in jail for saying it.

Quick Rundown from the US court website
What Does Free Speech Mean?



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Among other cherished values, the First Amendment protects freedom of speech. The U.S. Supreme Court often has struggled to determine what exactly constitutes protected speech. The following are examples of speech, both direct (words) and symbolic (actions), that the Court has decided are either entitled to First Amendment protections, or not.

The First Amendment states, in relevant part, that:

“Congress shall make no law...abridging freedom of speech.”


Freedom of speech includes the right:

quote:

Not to speak (specifically, the right not to salute the flag).
West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943).
Of students to wear black armbands to school to protest a war (“Students do not shed their constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate.”).
Tinker v. Des Moines, 393 U.S. 503 (1969).
To use certain offensive words and phrases to convey political messages.
Cohen v. California, 403 U.S. 15 (1971).
To contribute money (under certain circumstances) to political campaigns.
Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1 (1976).
To advertise commercial products and professional services (with some restrictions).
Virginia Board of Pharmacy v. Virginia Consumer Council, 425 U.S. 748 (1976); Bates v. State Bar of Arizona, 433 U.S. 350 (1977).
To engage in symbolic speech, (e.g., burning the flag in protest).
Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989); United States v. Eichman, 496 U.S. 310 (1990).

Freedom of speech does not include the right:

To incite actions that would harm others (e.g., “[S]hout[ing] ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.”).
Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919).
To make or distribute obscene materials.
Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).
To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).
Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986).
Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).

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