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re: How long will CFB survive in its current form?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:12 pm to mule74
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:12 pm to mule74
CFB and college sports in general are unsustainable. I thought coaches salaries and the fact that the vast majority of programs lose money would be what does it in. But it could be something like what happened at Mizzou, if it alienates the fan base. I'll be interested in the attendance Saturday and what the crowd reaction will be.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:14 pm to VABuckeye
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That was a Big 10 rule
Fin.Whatever...All I am sayg is that there ae wy to many bowls nowadays....When a 6-6 team akes a bowl hats terrible.....Be honest...ow many bow games do you really watch??? Ilookat the gudeto whe and where cetainbowls are and whos playin in them.I have and probablyalways will make it a poit to watch ll the New years day gas just because... BUT t was soooo muchbetter 25 or so yearagowhen there weren' as may bowls........
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:25 pm to mule74
id say less than 10 years, once college becomes "free" thatll be the end of it
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:25 pm to RileyTime
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they do need to lower the costs of tickets because that is getting ridiculous.
what similar good/service have do you know of that has decreased over time? We all need to cherish the days of $50/game cfb tickets because it's only going to get worse. Many schools now are charging visitors $100 a ticket...and people still pay them. Bowl game tickets now have some face values at around $200, and I'm not even talking the title game.
I bet in the 20s people thought it was outrageous to charge 25 cents.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 12:59 pm to WG_Dawg
Bowl games are not about filling seats anymore, they get their money from tv either way. If you make 2/3 of the stadium pay a lot more for tickets they still make their revenue and can charge back to the schools to recoup lost money on ticket sales. Bowl games need to go and go to 16 team playoff on home campus sites and reduce regular season and then teams not in playoff can schedule a yearly ending game like a bowl.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:29 pm to nicholastiger
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With all the money the NFL has, I'm still shocked a minor league of football hasn't been developed. They spend more money in Europe than in supporting lower levels of football in US. But I guess if NFL has a free minor league system which they do, why invest in one.
Similar to NBA, why have a one year rule, just start a minor league and dump the WNBA.
Actually safety is much better than it has been, both in NFL and college with targeting penalties and safety of players.
This.
The NFL doesn't have to invest money in developing young players when they have College Football as a farm system.
The NBA hated missing out on the farm system & free publicity for incoming college stars .
Grant Hill beat all NBA players in All Star votes in his 1st 2 seasons in the NBA( beating out both Shaquille O'Neal & Michael Jordan ).
NBA missed that free college marketing / ready made College stars .
Most Euro players like Rubio ,Gasol & other don't need the NCAA nor do American athletes( with the exception of a few late bloomers who experience growth spurts like David Robinson, Rodman,Pippen,etc...).
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:38 pm to sugar71
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nt Hill beat all NBA players in All Star votes in his 1st 2 seasons in the NBA( beating out both Shaquille O'Neal & Michael Jordan ).
NBA missed that free college marketing / ready made College stars .
This is confusing me. Are you saying that Grant Hill got more votes than Shaq or Jordan because he went to college? Both of those guys went to college.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:44 pm to mule74
you will see the Marxists make serious moves to abolish it in our lifetimes.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:09 pm to Wayne Campbell
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This is confusing me. Are you saying that Grant Hill got more votes than Shaq or Jordan because he went to college? Both of those guys went to college.
My point is about the free marketing the NBA gets from players going to College. Grant Hill straight from High School does not beat 11 year veteran/ superstar Michael Jordan in All Star votes.
Shaq, Jordan ,Hill etc, needed College no more than guys straight from High School like Kobe, Garnett or T-Mac( college made them more well known entities to casual fans).
My point was the NBA prefers to have the free marketing of College stars instead of trying to market young unknown High Schoolers (outside of hardcore fans).
The NBA likes the free marketing of the College system, but no one believes it is needed outside of a few late bloomers.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:25 pm to mule74
This is the golden age of football. In 20 years Soccer will be the largest sport for many different reasons. I don't like it but that is going to be the case.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 3:10 pm to mule74
quote:You realize to go pro means that they have to actually sign a contract with someone (or sign with an agent). Those 80% might think they are good enough, but aren't, and they're not even good enough to sign with an agent much less get a contract. That's not going to happen from high school except for maybe .1% of players.
In case you haven't noticed, 80% of the mediocre players in CFB think they are going pro. I expect a lot of them would forgo college to play semi-pro ball.
Plus, look how many players go pro playing baseball, and there are plenty of players left to play quality college ball. And they have a farm system with 4 levels. Many that get drafted in the later rounds still go to college (paying their own way no less as baseball only gives partial scholarships). And some of those players have even better tracks to the pros.
College football ain't going anywhere.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 11/12/15 at 4:45 pm to mule74
1. zero years.
Some aspect of current form will change after this season.
2. ticket prices reflect demand. Demand really goes down, so will prices.
Miami the U is building a new stadium. its going to be teeny.
35,000.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 5:00 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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College football ain't going anywhere.
And no one said it was going anywhere.
He said in its current form as a NFL farm system.
And doest Baseball basically have 1 position per team( outside Pitching) .
Basketball does not need College as a farm system and many of these 1 & done players could sign their contracts a year earlier.
With the exception of a few late bloomers/ growers ( David Robinson, Rodman, Pippen,etc.... ) the College ranks will not be the place to search for most Pro Basketball prospects.
Football neither if the NFL did not have a free farm system already.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 7:27 pm to CelticDog
Not sure ticket prices matter. I do agree with Jim Rockford in that the whole thing seems unsustainable with the coaches salaries, facilities arms race, and conference expansion. I think when conferences (and ESPN) can't extort cable providers to carry their networks for everyone either because of ala carte packaging or cord cutting, that kills one cash cow. Until then, there will be little change because let's face it -- the current system is slimy, but it's the best entertainment going.
Maybe kids rising up for pay like the Missouri thing could happen, but they'd have to go the unionization route, I think.
Maybe kids rising up for pay like the Missouri thing could happen, but they'd have to go the unionization route, I think.
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