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How can we reconcile the fact that 3 of the 5 conf. championships meant nothing?

Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:21 pm
SEC - Bama was locked in regardless
BIG10 - Ohio State was locked in regardless, not even playing in the game
BIG12 - both teams with zero playoff consideration regardless

PAC12 - Washington would be out with a loss
ACC - I think Clemson was likely out with a loss

You can argue about how many teams deserve to be in but I think this is the crux of the entire issue with the current system. The regular season has already been devalued because the committee will always be subjective and conference championships for the most part mean nothing.
Posted by emoney
Westerville, OH
Member since May 2010
8642 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:22 pm to
You guys are melting more than Penn State fans right now.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

How can we reconcile the fact that 3 of the 5 conf. championships meant nothing?


I've found that not giving a shite helps.
Posted by pkloa
Member since Jan 2011
2265 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:24 pm to
Truth.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53404 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:26 pm to
They're not mini-tournaments that automatically qualify a team. Just get that out of your head now and you will come to accept what is happening with the playoff.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21608 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:26 pm to
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BIG12 - both teams with zero playoff consideration regardless

Can you post the teams and score of the Big 12 Championship game? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84896 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:27 pm to
The only part that bothers me is that Ohio State benefited from PSU beating MSU and winning the division.

If MSU beat PSU, Ohio State could have been sitting at home with a loss to Wisconsin in the Big 10 championship. They benefited from not winning their conference and taking on the risk of the conference championship.

That is a flaw in the current system.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20769 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:28 pm to
This isn't the first year where a team could've lost the conference championship game and still played for an NC.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

How can we reconcile the fact that 3 of the 5 conf. championships meant nothing?
Conference championships mean conference championships. They don't have to mean any more than that. There's nothing to reconcile.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:39 pm to
I don't think winning a conference should be a requirement to get in, but I think winning one should guarantee you're in.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 6:42 pm to
There was no Big 12 championship game
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:19 pm to
They meant something. Just not enough. Penn state wasn't best team in big 10 and Oklahoma was clearly the weakest champ
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59108 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:37 pm to
A conference championship s a worthy accomplishment in and of itself, it's not supposed to merely be a playoff qualifier. I fricking hate people that think like you.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 7:38 pm to
Lose less regular season games?
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1544 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:04 pm to
Eye test
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:07 pm to
Penn State should not have sanctioned rape of boys and beaten Pitt. Maybe you get more sympathy
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62795 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:07 pm to
Since only 4 teams make it, you will always have at least 1 league as not meaning anything.
Bama was not locked in the playoff with a loss to Florida. At least according to the 538 matrix website the other day.
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