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re: How About a Kobe Thread? 2013 Season
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:05 pm to dabigfella
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:05 pm to dabigfella
quote:
Steve nash put up better percentages across the board except ppg at that same age im sure
Gotta love the research that went into "im sure." You're clearly an idiot troll, but just for fun, here's Nash's numbers at 34:
PPG - 15.7 - worse than Kobe
RPG - 3.0 - worse
APG - 9.7 - better
BPG - 0.1 - worse
SPG - 0.7 - worse
PER - 19.5 - worse
FG% - 50.3% - better
3pt% - 43.9% - better
FT% - 93.3% - better
TS% - 61.5% - better
Obviously Nash is going to kill damn near player in league history when it comes to shooting; he's in the Steph, Reggie Miller, Kerr, Bird range.
quote:
ETA just checked, go look at nash's 2008 season and lol at you thinking those kobe numbers are impressive for a 34 year old
Not just 34, but that age with the total minutes he played. Kobe's legs at 34 were in much worse shape than the average 34 year old in the league. He played like 15,000 more minutes than Steve Nash over his career
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:17 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
ordan, Malone, admiral, dirk among others all had higher PERs at the same age.
I'm not sure about Dirk, but MJ/Malone/Admirable had all played, what, 3-4 fewer seasons at age 34 than Kobe did? Here's MJ's numbers at 34 for comparison:
Kobe:
PPG - 27.3
RPG - 5.6
APG - 6.0
BPG - 0.3
SPG - 1.4
PER - 23
FG% - 46.3%
3pt% - 32.4%
FT% - 83.9%
TS% - 57%
MJ:
PPG - 28.7
RPG - 5.8
APG - 3.5
BPG - 0.5
SPG - 1.7
PER - 25.2
FG% - 46.5%
3pt% - 23.8%
FT% - 78.4%
TS% - 53.3%
These numbers are damn near identical, and I'm a guy that fully admits that MJ was a better player. When you look at total regular season minutes for both guys through their 34th year on Earth, Kobe's line becomes more impressive. Here's the totals (no playoffs bc I don't want to do the math)
MJ - 33,187 regular season minutes
KB - 45,390 regular season minutes
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:22 pm to AlexLSU
quote:How bold of you
I'm a guy that fully admits that MJ was a better player.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:25 pm to AlexLSU
Kobe is the ultimate MSB example of a guy whose career was SLIGHTLY overrated so long that it became criminally underrated when it was all said and done.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:28 pm to ReauxlTide222
If Kobe had MJ's hand size, he'd be the GOAT. Phil Jackson always said that was the biggest difference between the two players. I'm gonna go ahead and label Kobe as the small hands GOAT. Someone print the shirts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:32 pm to AlexLSU
I can honestly say I've never heard that argument in my life. Who are the other small hand GOATs in the other big 3 sports?
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
Youtube something generic like "Phil Jackson talks Jordan Kobe," and I'm sure you'll hear it in damn near every video. He'll say hands, MJ was stronger, and I've heard him say MJ was a better leader early on because of the age difference and playing under Dean Smith.
MJ's hands were enormous. He could pick the ball up with one hand off the dribble and do something with it. That may not sound impressive, but when you look for it, it's really noticeable. Look at this shite:
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MJ's hands were enormous. He could pick the ball up with one hand off the dribble and do something with it. That may not sound impressive, but when you look for it, it's really noticeable. Look at this shite:
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:40 pm to AlexLSU
Oh i can definitely tell that MJ had massive hands. Just never really thought about it in comparison to Kobe.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:41 pm to AlexLSU
quote:this is one of Lebron's greatest (and maybe most underrated) skills, imo.
He could pick the ball up with one hand off the dribble and do something with it
Posted on 7/13/16 at 6:18 pm to AlexLSU
tGOAT
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