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Has Bama's success this year been overhyped?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:45 am
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:45 am
Here's a ringer article talking about why their success might be overinflated due to this year's SEC LINK
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Max Browne, Stephen Johnson, Josh Dobbs, Trevor Knight, Danny Etling, Nick Fitzgerald, Jeremy Johnson, and Austin Appleby?—?none of whom rank in the top 50 nationally in passing yards per game
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Against LSU, their best opponent by advanced metrics, they faced a Purdue transfer at quarterback; in their conference championship game, they faced another, worse Purdue transfer at quarterback. Even Big Ten teams weren’t lucky enough to face two different Boilermaker starting QBs this year.
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Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:48 am to emoney
I don't recall the SEC being so down like it was this season as well
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:48 am to emoney
nahhhh baw, however, OSU chances against Bama is overhyped. Yahhh are gonna get friiiiccckkkedddd.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 5:51 am to emoney
Alabama has the best record and the highest SOS in the country. 
Posted on 12/10/16 at 6:34 am to emoney
The SEC being down is like most other conferences normal year. While it was down, Alabama has scored, what, 13-14 non offensive TDs? I mean that defense is absolutely insane.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 6:37 am to emoney
If anything it's been underhyped
Posted on 12/10/16 at 6:40 am to emoney
Maybe if they narrowly eeked by everyone. Outside of OM & LSU, they destroyed Power 5 opponents by 29 ppg (27 ppg vs entire schedule).
The Bucks narrowly beat a 3-win team by a whole point. They also struggled against Indiana, had three other wins by one score, plus a loss. Clemson struggled against a lot of teams including Troy who was absolutely robbed and NC State who couldn't make a simple field goal. Washington played a bad schedule and was dominated by a team Bama beat by 46 with a freshman backup QB.
We can make any of the CFP teams look pedestrian in a vacuum.
The Bucks narrowly beat a 3-win team by a whole point. They also struggled against Indiana, had three other wins by one score, plus a loss. Clemson struggled against a lot of teams including Troy who was absolutely robbed and NC State who couldn't make a simple field goal. Washington played a bad schedule and was dominated by a team Bama beat by 46 with a freshman backup QB.
We can make any of the CFP teams look pedestrian in a vacuum.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 6:48 am to emoney
The QBs from Ole Miss and Arkansas are both very good, but a lot of the QBs you listed wouldn't be in the top 50 for passing yards just because of the offense they run. I think Fitzgerald is a freshman and he was playing much better late in the season when Alabama played him.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 6:49 am to The Quiet One
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Maybe if they narrowly eeked by everyone. Outside of OM & LSU, they destroyed Power 5 opponents by 29 ppg (27 ppg vs entire schedule).
And they were up by 18 over Ole Miss with 3 minutes left in the game.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 7:13 am to emoney
It's somewhat basic football. If one team can't move the ball at all that teams defense will slowly begin giving up field position. Look at OSU in the first half against Michigan as they gained 5-7 yards a drive most of the first half.
There are no teams outside Bama in the SEC this year who have both offense and defense. All 4 playoff teams have that.
Bama may still win out but when their defense isn't starting inside the opponents 20 every drive they may nit be able to play quite as aggressively etc.
Or Bama may be that good. Best part is we get to see
There are no teams outside Bama in the SEC this year who have both offense and defense. All 4 playoff teams have that.
Bama may still win out but when their defense isn't starting inside the opponents 20 every drive they may nit be able to play quite as aggressively etc.
Or Bama may be that good. Best part is we get to see
Posted on 12/10/16 at 7:18 am to emoney
Crown them.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 7:51 am to ballscaster
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the highest SOS in the country.
But how do we determine that? Is it the perceived idea that the SEC is better than everyone therefore they have a high SOS? I'm not being a smart arse, I'm actually asking.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 8:07 am to emoney
Etling isn't that horrible but I agree Bama's success has been overhyped this year.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 8:15 am to lsuhunt555
quote:Pretty much every SOS ranking I can find has Alabama in the top 7.
But how do we determine that?
Posted on 12/10/16 at 8:33 am to lsuhunt555
The old bcs SOS formula:
x = opponents' winning percentage
y = opponents' opponents' winning percentage
SOS = (2x+y)/3
x = opponents' winning percentage
y = opponents' opponents' winning percentage
SOS = (2x+y)/3
Posted on 12/10/16 at 8:33 am to emoney
SEC QB's that Bama has faced are not as terrible as they're portrayed. The whole "SEC always has bad qb's" is a Colin Cowherd meme.
The problem with the SEC as the year progressed was injuries.
SEC Qb's Bama has faced: Chad Kelly, Trevor Knight, Austin Allen, Josh Dobbs, Danny Etling, Nick Fitzgerald. While maybe not the best group in the country it's hardly chopped liver. And they played teams such as Ole Miss and A&M at their peak, before injuries.
Now, they have not faced an offense as mechanically sound and well-timed as UW. And they certainly haven't seen a QB like Watson all year, but that should be expected when you enter the playoff. Neither of their opponents has seen a defense anywhere close to them either. It's unchartered waters for all 4 teams at that point.
The problem with the SEC as the year progressed was injuries.
SEC Qb's Bama has faced: Chad Kelly, Trevor Knight, Austin Allen, Josh Dobbs, Danny Etling, Nick Fitzgerald. While maybe not the best group in the country it's hardly chopped liver. And they played teams such as Ole Miss and A&M at their peak, before injuries.
Now, they have not faced an offense as mechanically sound and well-timed as UW. And they certainly haven't seen a QB like Watson all year, but that should be expected when you enter the playoff. Neither of their opponents has seen a defense anywhere close to them either. It's unchartered waters for all 4 teams at that point.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:26 am to emoney
No. Other than LSU, it's been total domination.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:44 am to usc6158
quote:In the BCS era, only 2011 LSU had every #1 vote and every computer's #1 rating. If the BCS still existed, 2016 Alabama would be the second.
If anything it's been underhyped
It definitely is being underhyped. Two more wins, and this will be the greatest Alabama team of all time.
Posted on 12/10/16 at 9:46 am to emoney
It's weird, the computers have the SEC West as the top division in CFB..
And the SEC East as the worst division in CFB.
1. SEC West
8. AAC West
9. Big12
10. SEC East
SEC QB play has fallen off a cliff.
That's the luxury Bama has right now. The benefit of the doubt from their own division (mostly because of them) with the reality of playing some truly awful East teams.
And the SEC East as the worst division in CFB.
1. SEC West
8. AAC West
9. Big12
10. SEC East
SEC QB play has fallen off a cliff.
That's the luxury Bama has right now. The benefit of the doubt from their own division (mostly because of them) with the reality of playing some truly awful East teams.
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 9:50 am
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