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re: Happy Jesuit gets a shot at title, but select/nonselect split still SUCKS.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:09 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:09 pm to Antonio Moss
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Because the public schools set it up to make sure they get private school money during the season but don't have to play them come the playoffs.
I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the fact that a lot of the private schools don't have enough other private schools in the area to form their own district.
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Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:09 pm to Antonio Moss
why can't the private schools leave the LHSAA and form their own association?
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:11 pm to sta4ever
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I did say some publics do recruit and get away with it.
The last ten schools to be sanctioned by the LHSAA for recruiting in football were all public schools.
And if attendance zones really are the issue then why is the split only for football? Football and Basketball are the only sports where publics win more than privates.
It's about watering down championships so that schools like Winnfield can win more.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:12 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the fact that a lot of the private schools don't have enough other private schools in the area to form their own district.
It was the public school principals that put in the provision that districts remain the same, not the privates.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:13 pm to Chicken
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why can't the private schools leave the LHSAA and form their own association?
There is a lot of talk about it. That talk will increase if the public schools vote to split all sports.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:18 pm to Antonio Moss
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The last ten schools to be sanctioned by the LHSAA for recruiting in football were all public schools.
That's because you can't sanction a private school for recruiting when, for them, it's perfectly legal.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:21 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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That's because you can't sanction a private school for recruiting when, for them, it's perfectly legal.
Unbelievably inaccurate.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:22 pm to double d
Dutchtown is not the entire parish. There are 4 public schools in Ascension and three are 5A. The zones are in a certain area of the parish like everyone else. Dutchtown always has players from New Orleans. Landon Collins, Eddie Lacy
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:23 pm to Antonio Moss
How? Y'all can get whoever you want. We can't
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:28 pm to sta4ever
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How? Y'all can get whoever you want. We can't
Read the LHSAA bylaws. Privates and publics are governed by the same rules. Neither can elicit prospective students for sports and neither can give financial compensation for sports. Private schools have been sanctioned in the past for recruiting violations.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:31 pm to Antonio Moss
But you can still get players from other zones they just have to abide by certain rules. Publics can't get people from other zones
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:32 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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That's because you can't sanction a private school for recruiting when, for them, it's perfectly legal.
well yeah as long as they follow certain guidelines... now you can't do much about word of mouth recruiting or parents knowing they were gonna send their kids to a certain school before birth
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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Unbelievably inaccurate
Not quite. Can it be proven? That's the question. For a public school to recruit, there has to be plenty of bases covered such as proof of residency. For a private school all it takes is to sign the dotted line. And that's the beauty of it. A private school can offer tuition assistance if it so chooses to whoever they want. And there's nothing anyone can do to prove or disprove anything because nothing is illegal about it.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:34 pm to Slippy
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Bunch of whiny arse, insecure, inferior, poor public school principals who are afraid to play the best. Pure and simple. What we have is a watered down product. Everybody gets a trophy.
I hope Alabama splits just like this. The State association actually talked some member schools out of making this very proposal recently...but it will eventually come.
Private schools have a distinct advantage.
I have coached both public school and private school football teams. I don't want to hear about how the rules are the same. I have been on both sides and seen how the letter of the rules can be met while obliterating the spirit of the rule.
(If public schools are so inferior, insecure and whiny asses....why do private schools want to compete against them...would not their championship be more meaningful if they competed against the secure, superior private schools...
)Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:36 pm to sta4ever
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Publics can't get people from other zones
that's where we need to fix the problem... we need open enrollment statewide with enrollment guaranteed to district residents and open seats available on a competitive basis to out of district and out of parish students
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:41 pm to sta4ever
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But you can still get players from other zones they just have to abide by certain rules. Publics can't get people from other zones
They do.
And publics don't charge tuition which in and of itself is a distinct advantage.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:41 pm to Shoulderchoke
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It's especially problematic in the lower classifications. For instance Calvary has 350 kids in school from all over the Shreveport area and 85 are on the football team. While DeQuincy has 350 from a 5 mile radius and can only get 50 and 25 are 5'8 or under.
This is really the issue. You have about 8-10 schools in the state that are basically sports factories, under the guise of Praising the Lord. These schools have small enrollments, but, almost the entire student body plays sports. Therefore, these few schools have teams that are much larger and deeper than the other schools in those classifications. Further, these private schools have money due to tax-deductible donations and they are competing against a bunch of poor, rural schools.
The gap isn't as bad in the 5A and 4A schools.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:43 pm to Bama323_15
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(If public schools are so inferior, insecure and whiny asses....why do private schools want to compete against them.
They aren't inferior. That's the issue. If Dr. Griffin had done any research (she didn't), she would have seen this.
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
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This is really the issue. You have about 8-10 schools in the state that are basically sports factories, under the guise of Praising the Lord. These schools have small enrollments, but, almost the entire student body plays sports. Therefore, these few schools have teams that are much larger and deeper than the other schools in those classifications. Further, these private schools have money due to tax-deductible donations and they are competing against a bunch of poor, rural schools.
Precisely! You take a school like Westminster Christian Academy. Small private school with small enrollment. Sports aren't a priority and it shows. They encourage their kids to play sports but for some reason they just aren't as loaded as a John Curtis or a Calvary Baptist. I wonder why that is.....
Posted on 12/5/14 at 2:53 pm to Slippy
Jesuit can suck a dick
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