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re: Goodell's legacy: 2 slapdick "investigations" that fricked 2 franchises

Posted on 9/9/14 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 3:54 pm to
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But it does so happen that Goodell was there when the NFL went from very wealthy to print money wealthy


except that's not the case, and that also just doesn't happen overnight

2007 was his first year as commissioner (he started in September 06, so his first full year)

the upward momentum as far as media interest, fan interest, and revenue growth was already there...look at the year to year growth of the NFL's revenue

The NFL was also "printing money" a few years before anyone knew who the frick he was, manning's record breaking year, the patriots dynasty, the manning/brady showdowns, steelers were back, television contracts, labor deals...everything was great, and the foundation for what you're seeing now with the NFL's brand invincibility is all Tags, all of it.

Tags didn't protect the shield, he strengthened it. (he made it the single most popular sport in America) Goodell has done nothing more than public relations for the owners.

now, I ask you...do you think the fans think more highly or less highly of the NFL now than they did in 2006?


Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 3:57 pm to
You're arguing with a guy who thinks american football is the biggest sport on thr planet...I think you are wasting your time
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:03 pm to
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Fox Mulder


I answered your email. I should've read the subject line closely.

Thanks for the interest though.




Oh and I hope nobody in this thread is still sucking the commish's cock. frick that guy and frick his over the top reactionary bullshite that cost us a year of Payton and Brees.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79204 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:08 pm to
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Channel 4 in Britain didn't pay billions for NFL. NBC in America paid billions for EPL.



And yet the NFL still generates way more revenue. As a fan of the EPL, I have no interest in making it seem inferior to the NFL....but it is.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:08 pm to
frick Goodell. I'm getting sick of this shite. Every season it's something new.
Posted by SerenityNow
Chicago
Member since Feb 2008
2418 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:09 pm to
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People want Roger gone for other reasons, and are using this scandal to push. That is correct.

Roger is a terrible reactionary buffoon who is fricking up the NFL. This is also correct.


Best post in this thread and absolutely correct.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:09 pm to


it's really bad...and for some years now we've had to listen to people rewrite history as if the NFL wasn't the unstoppable juggernaut in 06 when Goodell took over, and that the foundation he put down hasn't propelled the league to its current success

goodell has made player conduct policy a priority and public emphasis, with the motive of making a name for himself and cleaning up an already great image...instead, he has destroyed all of the goodwill between the NFL and its fans. He has created a perception (I'm not here to discuss the reality) that the NFL is loaded with thugs, and he's had about 3 or 4 major PR disasters, one of which should be grounds for his termination

That's just the quick and easy

he fricking sucks and I hope he gets canned because my interest in the NFL is waning, and I don't think that's a good thing for me.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:09 pm to
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You're arguing with a guy who thinks american football is the biggest sport on thr planet...I think you are wasting your time



Someone who can't read, I see.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:13 pm to
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People want Roger gone for other reasons, and are using this scandal to push


some, sure

for me, I see this as the last in a series of major frickups, and I think it's time to go...I don't think this on its own should warrant his termination, but then he was just caught lying in yet another of his patented PR smear campaigns

this time against a victim of domestic abuse. He definitively has lied, either to reporters (which is slimier for a variety of reasons) or to us...I'm definitely viewing this through the prism of replacement refs, bountygate, spygate, lockout, etc.

He is too often the news, and that's bad for fans and for the owners...it is a much shorter than you think matter of time before the results start showing.
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:18 pm to
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It's the best league in the nation that has the most sports consumers, and it isn't close.



Yes but no one outside the US cares. Basketball, Soccer and Cricket are all bigger internationally.

In reply to your probable counter argument, consider the population of India.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:20 pm to
again, an irrelevant argument as anyone could've stepped in for tags, jerked their meat around, and watched record revenues.

Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Someone who can't read, I see.


Yeah you didn't just stop at sports. You claimed it was the preeminent form of entertainment.

Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
79204 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 5:44 pm to
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Yeah you didn't just stop at sports. You claimed it was the preeminent form of entertainment.



And outside of some totally different type of product, like FIFA, you'd be hard pressed to find its rival. Saying cricket is bigger than American football internationally is an entirely different discussion than whether any cricket product rivals the NFL in the entertainment industry.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:09 pm to
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And outside of some totally different type of product, like FIFA, you'd be hard pressed to find its rival. Saying cricket is bigger than American football internationally is an entirely different discussion than whether any cricket product rivals the NFL in the entertainment industry.



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Well, good luck selling the argument that the guy heading up the NFL when it became the most popular thing on the planet is doing a shitty job.

Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22472 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:24 pm to
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Goodell said his indefinite suspension of Rice is consistent with his new domestic violence policy announced late last month, with a six-game suspension for a first offense and at least a year suspension for the second.


Laughable. So he essentially got charged twice for the same crime
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 6:34 pm to
Are people still buying the line that roger dodger didn't see the tape?


Suckers
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79204 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:17 pm to
Go look up "hyperbolic"
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15846 posts
Posted on 9/9/14 at 7:18 pm to
And how much a year does this douche make?
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