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re: Good Story on Lebron's Message to his Team.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:20 am to Adam Banks
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:20 am to Adam Banks
He can relate to everyone. Cultural phenom and GOAT.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 11:21 am
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:26 am to Adam Banks
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It was Igudoala who fouled him by hitting him on the back and Jackson and JVG pointed that out. It wasnt the jumping into him that go the call.
I thought I heard JVG pointing out that it was Lebron that caused the contact by going sideways with his shoulder/elbow, but it was at the baseball game tailgate and I couldn't hear too well.
BUt Lebron definitely shoved his elbow/shoulder into Iguodala and that's what drew the foul. I found a clip on YT: LINK
And I'm not saying that it's definitely not a foul (though I disagree with the call), but my point to SFP was that what Lebron did there was easily "worse" than what Curry did bear the end of the game (when he got JR Smith to bite on a pump fake and jumped into him as he shot).
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:31 am to CocomoLSU
It was hilarious watching the posters flip-flop who supported Lebron's jump SIDEWAYS into a defender, call curry a pussy and say how much the rule needed to be changed, when he pump faked JR into coming towards him and got fouled. JR goes up and down and no foul is called. Falling towards curry is what got the call.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:33 am to Weagle25
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As good as he is, I think he could be better.
As crazy as this sounds, I agree.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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next we're going to hear about how he's not clutch, even though "clutch" doesn't exist
I know you think pressure situations dont effect people...which is a weird stance but i just read an article that says clutch nay finally have a equation to start showing that it exist. It was alot of numbers in article but it was a good one for stat guys that dont believe in feel for a game
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:52 am to fightingtiger2335
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I know you think pressure situations dont effect people...which is a weird stance but i just read an article that says clutch nay finally have a equation to start showing that it exist. It was alot of numbers in article but it was a good one for stat guys that dont believe in feel for a game
It definitely exists in my opinion. I just think it's simply the fight-or-flight response that's in every human. When faced with adversity, you either choose to fight or run away.
Athletes have to make those same choices in high pressure situation, we just call it "clutch" or "choking" instead of fight or flight.
A big reason why I felt GS would be in a dogfight is because we didn't know how they'd react in these big game situations. The WCFs are not the NBA Finals. It's just not the same.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 11:54 am
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:57 am to Buckeye Backer
I could not care less about the Cavs or the Warriors. I wish they could both lose.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 12:58 pm to Weagle25
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To be honest, I don't hate him as a person. I hate him as a player if that makes sense.
It absolutely doesn't make sense because he is a great player, as well as a great person anyway. You're fricking retarded.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 1:51 pm to fightingtiger2335
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I know you think pressure situations dont effect people...
Wait, no way SFP actually believes this, right?
Trying to make a 20 foot putt alone on an empty course and trying to make the exact same putt to win a tournament for tons of money with the world watching are definitely nowhere near the same thing.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 2:12 pm to Buckeye Backer
I don't hate Lebron. I respect how he plays the game.
But, the flopping, the complaining, and the acting like you just won it all when you just won game 2 gives me douche chills often.
But all of that isn't enough for me to actually hate the guy. He is a great player who busts his arse for himself and his teammates.
But, the flopping, the complaining, and the acting like you just won it all when you just won game 2 gives me douche chills often.
But all of that isn't enough for me to actually hate the guy. He is a great player who busts his arse for himself and his teammates.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 2:54 pm to CocomoLSU
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And I'm not saying that it's definitely not a foul (though I disagree with the call), but my point to SFP was that what Lebron did there was easily "worse" than what Curry did bear the end of the game (when he got JR Smith to bite on a pump fake and jumped into him as he shot).
Dude, I'm not gonna speak on the Curry one right now. Id need to see a replay. But i don't see how it can be worse. That is one of the easiest calls I've ever seen. Lebron did not throw his shoulder out to the side. Igoudola would have landed on him.
Iggy hit Lebron with his knee. Only way Lebron could have avoided that was lifting his right foot. SO you are suggesting he should have been required to travel to avoid somebody jumping on him in the middle of a play? He took the contact, fought back against it to get some balance and avoid being knocked over, and got a shot off. There is zero scenario where Lebron doesn't travel and Iggy misses him.
His foot was on the ground when contact was made. He did not "jump in" to anything. I think thats the only issue anybody could have with that rule. Anyone got a video of Currys?
Just looked. Curry indeed jumped into it. Not saying it necessarily shouldn't be a foul, but the Lebron one is much more obvious. Lebron was jumped into as he stood in place. Curry met JR Smith in the air somewhere between where each was originally standing.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 3:00 pm to TheSexecutioner
I was rooting for the Cavs ... but, I cannot any longer.
I simply cannot stomach the idea of a fricking idiotic brain-dead ex-Knick-trash fool like J.R. Smith being an NBA Champion.
I simply cannot stomach the idea of a fricking idiotic brain-dead ex-Knick-trash fool like J.R. Smith being an NBA Champion.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 3:17 pm to navy
Well, at least no one can say you let the little things bother you.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 3:19 pm to STLhog
That new movie LeBron is in looks funny.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 3:20 pm to boXerrumble
I agree. Averaging 42/11/9 so far in the finals with two all stars missing and playing in the hardest venue to win in the NBA this season is pretty shitty.
I expect 45/15/15 on 60% shooting at least.
I expect 45/15/15 on 60% shooting at least.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 3:32 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Of course pressure situations exist, and people react uniquely to stress. That said, I think the idea of "clutch" as a easily measures and observed positive reaction to this situation has been largely based on false narratives.
It definitely exists in my opinion. I just think it's simply the fight-or-flight response that's in every human. When faced with adversity, you either choose to fight or run away.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 3:46 pm to fightingtiger2335
quote:Do you have a link? One problem problem has always been defining when "clutch" can even occur. Another problem is that the "clutch" sample size is often quite small. No matter how clutch is analyzed, these will usually be present. After that, there are so many unique variables (specific game situations, defensivse and offense strategies, personnel, etc.) that need considered and are made then more complicated my the sample size issues. This makes it really difficult to quantify it with any precision at the individual-level.
i just read an article that says clutch nay finally have a equation to start showing that it exist. It was alot of numbers in article but it was a good one for stat guys that dont believe in feel for a game
Posted on 6/8/15 at 3:56 pm to SabiDojo
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Well, at least no one can say you let the little things bother you.
He almost single-handedly cost his team the game.
Too stupid. A liability.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:39 pm to CocomoLSU
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if Lebron can somehow manage to pull his team to a championship this season, it would be a HUGE boost to his legacy
shite, it would already surpass, in my book, any championship that Jordan won, who NEVER won a championship without Pippen....
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