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re: Get rid of penalties for taunting in the NCAA

Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:28 am to
Posted by oompaw
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:28 am to
It's just like a holding play on a pass play for a TD. The TD is called back because of the penalty that took place before the TD occurred.

This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 11:29 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:35 am to
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Do we let a player score if there is illegal block in the back on the play of a punt return for a TD? No, the infraction is penalized at the point of the foul.


Difference is the block in the back or the hold might have contributed to the touchdown. (In some cases it wouldn't have mattered but you have to call it or it becomes a speculative judgement call).

Wing's infraction not only had nothing to do with the outcome of the play, but he risked having the ball slip out of his hand or getting caught from behind Don Beebe/Leon Lett style.
Posted by oompaw
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:40 am to
The point is, the rule is in place.

The call was the right call and a good call according to the rule that has been adopted into the rule book. The infraction occured before the TD.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:44 am to
Oh look an LSU fan wanting to get rid of this rule today. Go figure
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:44 am to
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It's just like a holding play on a pass play for a TD. The TD is called back because of the penalty that took place before the TD occurred


Holding can affect the outcome of the play, taunting is subjective and penalize for it is stupid.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:49 am to
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I totally disagree. Penalties for taunting are necessry as long as there are hot dog look at me actions. Act like you scored before and play with sportsmanship. College football isn;t the playground.


what a sanctimonious jackhole. The 50's are over. Sorry you are "offended" by a little celebration.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:51 am to
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Oh look an LSU fan wanting to get rid of this rule today. Go figure


I've wanted this rule gone since they adopted it. This past Saturday just showed in real life how stupid it is and how it can be called incorrectly as well. The spirit of this rule (while dumb) is to cut back on the Reggie Bush flips into the EZ, the high stepping, holding the ball out at the player chasing, etc. A punter at the end of a 50 yard TD run held his arms out for a split second.

And let me ask you this - if the flag wasn't thrown, would you have said "Brad Wing taunted Florida on his way into the EZ"? I know I wouldn't have.
Posted by oompaw
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:54 am to

I thought the rule was put into the books as a way to penalize unsportsmanlike behavior.

I guess if the coaches taught sportsmanship to their players, then there would be no need for the rule.

Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:55 am to
The purpose of football is to determine which football team is the best on any giving game.

The purpose is not to see which team is the nicest, most respectful of their competition, and holds the door for ladies the best.

Any one who thinks that these rules are legit is an idiot. Mainly because it gives the referees the discretion to call what they "want" to call. They see taunting on nearly every play. But, when they "want" to, they can call a penalty. That is retarded and should be removed from the game.
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:57 am to
Is it simply because its a punter? What if it was a WR or lets say a Florida guy?
Posted by oompaw
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:58 am to
It's to help keep control of the game.
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:00 pm to
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It's to help keep control of the game.


so, it hasn't been a problem for the last 100 years, but it is needed for this year???

Can you point me to evidence that the game has been getting out of control over the last 100 years and this penalty is needed?
Posted by Jones
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:02 pm to
Taunting on every play? Stop making up shite to support your argument.

What if Wing would have pointed to the student section as he went in ala Tracy Porter pick 6 Superbowl, would you consider that a penalty?
Posted by oompaw
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:02 pm to
How many games have your watched?


n/m
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:05 pm to
I don't mind a little celebration but I don't want the goofy arse stuff like the NFL has when a player gets a sack. They do some selfish celebration.
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 12:06 pm
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:06 pm to
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I don't mind a little celebration but I don't want the goofy arse stuff like the NFL has when a player gets a sack. They do some selfish celebration.


this happens in every single college football game.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:08 pm to
I'm talking about like the Jared Allen celebration or Shawn Merriman crap.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Is it simply because its a punter? What if it was a WR or lets say a Florida guy?


No, it's because it wasn't anything at all. Did you honestly watch that in real time and think "that is taunting" when he did that?
Posted by hashtag
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:11 pm to
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I'm talking about like the Jared Allen celebration or Shawn Merriman crap.


Or, Glenn Dorsey 2007 crap? There is no need to police emotion on a football field. There are already rules in affect that will limit this (delay of game, offsides, etc.).

Like I said, this has not been a problem in college football for the last 100 years. Why are they offering a solution to something that is not a problem?
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20751 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 12:12 pm to
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What if Wing would have pointed to the student section as he went in ala Tracy Porter pick 6 Superbowl, would you consider that a penalty?


Nope

And let's start penalizing kickers that celebrate before their FG goes through the uprights at the end of the game, what do ya say
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