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FSU would be favored over Arky by 1.5
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:05 am
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:05 am
For all those wondering...FSU -1.5 vs Arkansas (with a healthy Allen) on a neutral field as per Ed Salmons, chief oddsmaker at @LVSuperBook
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:06 am to ChemE in the OP
Guess Bama, Ole Miss, and LSU wouldn't have covered that against them.
In seriousness, Arkansas has won their last two games over top 15 opponents by a combined 37-0. They also derped games against Alabama and Mississippi State recently where they looked every bit as good. Arkansas is playing some really good ball.
In seriousness, Arkansas has won their last two games over top 15 opponents by a combined 37-0. They also derped games against Alabama and Mississippi State recently where they looked every bit as good. Arkansas is playing some really good ball.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 6:10 am
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:21 am to ChemE in the OP
He also claims Baylor would be 7.5 favorites over Ohio State on a neutral field this weekend. I'm not sure how accurate this guys numbers are.
Doing a bit of research I saw an interview. Here are some pieces of it:
You opened at Alabama minus-10, significantly higher than what John Avello did at the Wynn. Avello opened at -7. Why the bigger number?
Q: How much is LSU’s home-field worth to the spread?
Salmons: I always chuckle when people say this place or this place is a hard place to play. The only true home-field advantage is if you play in higher altitude.
Q: But still Death Valley at night has to be considered one of the toughest places to play in college football, right?
Salmons: Are you kidding me? If Alabama gets up early, those fans are going to be booing LSU. Death Valley will become Boo Valley.
Q: So you’re saying that Tiger Stadium is worth just the standard three-point home field advantage?
Salmons: In this game, it’s probably worth less.
So if he opened 3 points off from a different line in real life, I have no trouble believing he would make up inflated claims on games that he never has to pay the piper on(Baylor one worse than this IMO). I think Florida State would end up being more like 3.5 point favorites before all would be said and done. But they haven't been a great spread-covering team this year.
Doing a bit of research I saw an interview. Here are some pieces of it:
You opened at Alabama minus-10, significantly higher than what John Avello did at the Wynn. Avello opened at -7. Why the bigger number?
Q: How much is LSU’s home-field worth to the spread?
Salmons: I always chuckle when people say this place or this place is a hard place to play. The only true home-field advantage is if you play in higher altitude.
Q: But still Death Valley at night has to be considered one of the toughest places to play in college football, right?
Salmons: Are you kidding me? If Alabama gets up early, those fans are going to be booing LSU. Death Valley will become Boo Valley.
Q: So you’re saying that Tiger Stadium is worth just the standard three-point home field advantage?
Salmons: In this game, it’s probably worth less.
So if he opened 3 points off from a different line in real life, I have no trouble believing he would make up inflated claims on games that he never has to pay the piper on(Baylor one worse than this IMO). I think Florida State would end up being more like 3.5 point favorites before all would be said and done. But they haven't been a great spread-covering team this year.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:24 am to StraightCashHomey21
Love that GIF, probably appropriate, couldn't help stirring the pot a little more.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 6:53 am to ChemE in the OP
Fsu isn't as good this year and Arky is playing well atm.. Not sure how this is such a stretch.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 7:45 am to ChemE in the OP
That doesn't surprise me. Whats the spread against MIzzou.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:30 am to TheSexecutioner
quote:
In seriousness, Arkansas has won their last two games over top 15 opponents by a combined 37-0. They also derped games against Alabama and Mississippi State recently where they looked every bit as good. Arkansas is playing some really good ball.
You forgot the A&M game where we dominated then wilted in the 4th giving up 21 unanswered to lose in OT on a play w/ a bad no call on an early jump by the WR who caught the winning TD.
With all this team has been through and put fans through we're crazy excited to be bowl eligible. 6-6 was where I thought this team could peak because of depth and our average at best QB and retarded OC who gets antsy and thinks he needs to out-think everyone when we get in favorable situations.
Our defense has really come along, especially the run D, and our nickel package has been lights out and finally forced some TO's yesterday.
an additional month of practice is what this team needed more than anything.
There's been lots of talk about us playing Texas in a bowl game either in Houston, Shreveport, or Memphis and that's what'll likely happen simply for the ticket sales. If we get paired up w/ a middling Big 12 or Big 10 team, we're gonna crush some skulls. If we get a team like Houston or Cincinnati.... Jesus, send prayers.
As for FSU, I think we could get a nice early lead as they'll overlook us and Jameis seems to obviously be sandbagging first halves. If we get up 17, we'll eat clock and pound it on long drives not giving FSU enough possessions to come back and win. I don't think we'd see a repeat of the A&M game, our secondary has improved big time and the freshmen are replacing the shitty non contributor Jr/Sr's.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 8:47 am to TheSexecutioner
For sure FSU would be favored by under a TD; probably around 4 or 5 against Arkansas. Baylor would be favored over Ohio State, but only by a couple of points.
As for home field advantage, he's right. the only intrinsic advantage occur in the elevation stadiums. Now some teams handle crowd noise better than others. And he's right about the raging crowds - when things go bad, they get eerily quiet and that works against the home team.
As for home field advantage, he's right. the only intrinsic advantage occur in the elevation stadiums. Now some teams handle crowd noise better than others. And he's right about the raging crowds - when things go bad, they get eerily quiet and that works against the home team.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:04 am to ChemE in the OP
Yea arkansas easily could have beaten A&M, MSU, and Bama this year.
That would pretty much put them first in the division, no?
That would pretty much put them first in the division, no?
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:07 am to ChemE in the OP
I'd bet an obscene amount of money I shouldn't bet if I was offered FSU - 1.5 against Arkansas on a neutral field.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:10 am to ChemE in the OP
What is with all this Arky talk?
Who gives a shite about them?
Having watched Arky...I would take...
tOSU, Oregon, FSU, Baylor, ASU and UCLA over them.
They remind me of a middle of the road Big10 team.
That's how far the SEC has fallen.
If Arky is a threat in your conference and to Bama...14-13....you be in trouble. Bret B.
Who gives a shite about them?
Having watched Arky...I would take...
tOSU, Oregon, FSU, Baylor, ASU and UCLA over them.
They remind me of a middle of the road Big10 team.
That's how far the SEC has fallen.
If Arky is a threat in your conference and to Bama...14-13....you be in trouble. Bret B.
This post was edited on 11/23/14 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:18 am to Zamoro10
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What is with all this Arky talk?
We're pretty dang good- exceptionally good for being 6-5 and people dig us for our fight, for our massive improvement and for our resiliency.
quote:
Who gives a shite about them?
Me and a lot of other people. Xoxo
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:30 am to TheSexecutioner
That dude sounds like a douche.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 10:30 am to ChemE in the OP
So how many other teams would be favored over Arky?
Bama, Baylor, Oregon...
Ohio State? Miss St? TCU?
Bama, Baylor, Oregon...
Ohio State? Miss St? TCU?
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