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re: For those who don't think the NFL is rigged....

Posted on 9/28/11 at 11:41 am to
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 11:41 am to
I understand that. A few years removed and we all know what the correct call was. I just don't understand how the play was confirmed by the booth. Get some calls lose to some calls I guess.

I would just like to know what the real reason that flag was thrown for Sunday. The guy wasn't near anyone.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 11:56 am to
I didn't see the play, but I've seen several people say there was holding, others say it wasn't. Maybe he gave the wrong number, that happens. The comical part about the OP is, the call screwed the casinos and bookies, since 80% of the bets were on GB and that insured they cover
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 12:50 pm to
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I didn't see the play, but I've seen several people say there was holding, others say it wasn't. Maybe he gave the wrong number, that happens.


I've only seen the replay on ESPN. I said in the thread already that my money would be he gave the wrong number. The guy who was called for holding was no where near anyone.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5356 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 1:45 pm to
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At least in this specific context, it is not the role of judges and juries to be second-guessing the decision taken by a professional sports league purportedly enforcing its own rules.

In fact, we generally lack the knowledge, experience, and tools in which to engage in such an inquiry. For instance, there appear to be no real standards or criteria that a legal decision-maker may use to determine when a particular rule violation gives rise to an actionable claim or should instead be accepted as a usual and expected part of the game.

At the very least, a ruling in favor of Mayer could lead to other disappointed fans filing lawsuits because of “a blown call” that apparently caused their team to lose or any number of allegedly improper acts committed by teams, coaches, players, referees and umpires, and others. This Court refuses to countenance a course of action that would only further burden already limited judicial resources and force professional sports organizations and related individuals to expend money, time, and resources to defend against such litigation.


LINK

So if the NFL predetermined the Green Bay Packers to play the Pittsburgh Steelers in Arlington in last years Super Bowl...according to this court decision it is completely acceptable.

So the NFL's refs can manipulate games...and they are well within their rights to do it.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 1:50 pm to
Damn..Philly coming with some legit info on the subject.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 2:27 pm to
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Damn..Philly coming with some legit info on the subject.


no, he's not, see the 10 characteristics of a conspiracy theorists I posted yesterday. They try and twist anything to suit their argument. This suit is from some butt hurt Jets fans over the Patriots "spygate" scandal. What the court says is no laws were broken and its not in the jurisdiction of the court to enforce or interpret NFL rules. If anything this should prove he is wrong, that its not all "fixed". If the NFL decided that NE was going to win the first game on 2007 season 38-14, go undefeated and lose the Super Bowl to the Giants, what the frick are the Patriots stealing other teams signals for, shits and giggles? So they can waste money on law suits, giving hints only the tinfoil hat crowd gets about their rigged games?

If its all predetermined, why has no one, in 90+ years ever said so? The WWE doesn't pretend to be anything but a show. Why would the NFL lie and claim to be putting on legit games, where the outcome is unknown, while staging them? Why the charade? Its not like the WWE doesn't make any money and why would you think the NFL would not make money playing it strait? Why would they want Green-Bay and Pittsburgh in the SB over the other 30 teams? Any match up will make all kinds of money. The principle of occum razors is foreign to kooks like Philly.

This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 2:28 pm to
Wait.

You're trying to use the ruling in the Spygate lawsuit to support your claim that the NFL is rigged?

REALLY?
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 2:39 pm to
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I'll go more into this when I get home.


Please don't. I'll agree with you on the subject.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 2:39 pm to
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So the NFL's refs can manipulate games...and they are well within their rights to do it.


Only a kook could reach that conclusion from that ruling. A fan whining that his team lost is one thing. Las Vegas casinos do not take bets on WWE outcomes, they and their customers would have a very valid suit if the NFL allowed games to be rigged.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 2:40 pm to
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Please don't. I'll




OK. I'll refrain.

I would love for him to give a valid reason as to why they would fix the games and lie about. money is not a valid reason, since they can make money either way. And making "more" is also not a good reason when you are talking about making 9 Billion instead of 8.99 Billion.
This post was edited on 9/28/11 at 2:43 pm
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 9/28/11 at 3:00 pm to
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I'll refrain.


Thank you
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5356 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 1:56 pm to
The Fix Is In

If you listen, the author of the book, "The Fix Is In" is doing a follow up where he has over 400 FBI Files where they investigated sports fixing.

Also, back to the original post of the Packers vs Bears...Not only did it affect the Packers at -4.5...but it affected the total. Had that punt return counted, the over would have hit not the under.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 2:40 pm to
man, if the NFL is fixing games, i deeply appreciate it .. i had a dollar on the packers ..
Posted by PackerzCanes4life
Vancouver
Member since Sep 2011
16 posts
Posted on 9/29/11 at 5:17 pm to
Wasn't rigged, was out played..
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5356 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 12:11 am to
A year later...I guess you didn't see the last play of the Falcons vs Raiders game?

Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 4:33 am to
The NFL is not rigged.

How do you pay off a guy making 20 million dollars a year? You don't.
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 1:25 am to
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The NFL is not rigged.

How do you pay off a guy making 20 million dollars a year? You don't.


You control it with the refs. Everybody knows this.
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