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Football Question: Zone vs Man Blocking
Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:18 pm
I know zone is more common than man today, but why? Is it because it negates twists, stunts and zone blitzes better? Because not relying on a pulling lineman allows the blocking to develop faster? Teach me.
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Posted on 1/31/13 at 3:38 pm to Cold Pizza
Most blocking schemes involve numbering the players on the line.
It gets very tedious when linebackers start walking up to the line looking like they are blitzing, which is why a Peyton or a Brady being able to analyze things makes the offensive lines better.
With zone blocking, there is no numbering, just see the guy in your zone, shove him, and move on.
There's a lot more involved than that, but its the basic reason why.
It gets very tedious when linebackers start walking up to the line looking like they are blitzing, which is why a Peyton or a Brady being able to analyze things makes the offensive lines better.
With zone blocking, there is no numbering, just see the guy in your zone, shove him, and move on.
There's a lot more involved than that, but its the basic reason why.
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:05 pm to Jcorye1
In what situations is man blocking better?
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:10 pm to Cold Pizza
it's better for pass blocking on non-play action plays without a doubt
man blocking requires better talent and cohesion, but at it's peak, it's superior
zone blocking is easier to assemble a line, but it has a lower ceiling
man blocking requires better talent and cohesion, but at it's peak, it's superior
zone blocking is easier to assemble a line, but it has a lower ceiling
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:12 pm to Jcorye1
The term man blocking is often misused. Man is zone but with a few blockers sealing, trapping, or kicking out to open a specific hole. Where as Zone doesn't have a specific hole and lineman block "inline"
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Incorrect.
zone blocking is easier to assemble a line, but it has a lower ceiling
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:17 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Cant wait to hear this.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:18 pm to KosmoCramer
i'm just going to give him the equivalent of a pat on the head here
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
i'm just going to give him the equivalent of a pat on the head here
Until this thread I really thought VerlanderBEAST was your retarded alter. I believed you were just trolling the board.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:26 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Cant wait to hear this.
"Man blocking" is straight forward. Zone blocking has more possibilities and lets a great RB shine.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:29 pm to TigerintheNO
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Until this thread I really thought VerlanderBEAST was your retarded alter. I believed you were just trolling the board.
it would be an epic, detailed trolljob too, b/c he talks about how awesome brooklyn is and shite like that
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:34 pm to VerlanderBEAST
man blocking is more difficult to do well.
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:53 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:
"Man blocking" is straight forward. Zone blocking has more possibilities and lets a great RB shine.
Not really.
Say you run a basic veer. The OT isn't blocking the DE, he's going after the end linebacker. Now this gets tricky in certain situations. What happens if the MLB shows blitz and lines up between the 3 and the 5-7? What happens if the OLB knocks the 6-7 down to the 5 and lines up outside?
It requires constant communication and every single lineman to be on the same page.
If the G reads the nose as a shade to his side, but the OT thinks its straight on, it effects the numbering system in some cases. This is how, every now and then, you will get a DE just completely unblocked.
Another example of how the numbering system starts is NE's calls. Brady will call out who the MLB is and is being treated as such on a given play. I'm just guessing, but I'm assuming he's given the 0 designation (could be 1 or 2 depending if the play is going right or left).
This post was edited on 1/31/13 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/31/13 at 4:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
most zone schemes prosper with more mobile lineman...they feature stretch plays and one-cut backs rather than a pre-determined hole. counter plays work well in this scheme as well...they actually let O lineman "take the D lineman in teh direction they want to go and let the RB cut off the opening.
Man blocking supports predetermined holes or lanes and features a more "quick hitting type of play"
Man blocking supports predetermined holes or lanes and features a more "quick hitting type of play"
Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:00 pm to Cold Pizza
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In what situations is man blocking better?
I dunno if this will answer your question, but this is a copy of the 2004 Patriots Playbook.
I didn't upload it, but it will show you just how crazy some of the schemes are.
LINK
Posted on 1/31/13 at 5:45 pm to Jcorye1
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Not really.
Say you run a basic veer. The OT isn't blocking the DE, he's going after the end linebacker. Now this gets tricky in certain situations. What happens if the MLB shows blitz and lines up between the 3 and the 5-7? What happens if the OLB knocks the 6-7 down to the 5 and lines up outside?
It requires constant communication and every single lineman to be on the same page.
If the G reads the nose as a shade to his side, but the OT thinks its straight on, it effects the numbering system in some cases. This is how, every now and then, you will get a DE just completely unblocked.
You are kind of missing the originally point. SFP said "man blocking" had a higher ceiling and was more complex. When in actuality they are equally complex and zone has a higher ceiling.
Also "man blocking" has the same issues. Because man blocking is zone with 1 or 2 guys sealing or kicking out.
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