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re: ESPNs contract with the NBA

Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:27 am to
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:27 am to
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so john stockton never won a title bc he didn't sitout 6-7 games a year? If


It's absurd.


Elvin Hayes never playing less than 80 games in his 16 seasons did not stop him ,nor Kareem, nor Wilt etc...from winning rings. Nor Jordan 11 of 15 seasons playing 80 plus games effect his ring winning ability.


One can manage minutes without sitting PrimeTime or showcase games.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:28 pm to
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vagisil


You are in dire need of this product, tbh.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
5570 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:34 pm to
So we have a season that runs roughly 8-9 months but you think rodeo and Mardi Gras is a big problem with schedule.

WTF,

Problem with NBA-ESPN is they cater to about 15-20% of general public, not a good business model.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15776 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:43 pm to
Link?
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18285 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:49 pm to
They paid 600 million to the NFL for rights to broadcast 6 wild card playoff games. They lost $75 million on the first year. They cant sustain these contracts.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47907 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:51 pm to
That's what happens when you invest in a lazy uneducated labor force led by a mentally weak pussy. I love it there's not enough bad things in this world that can happen to espn abc and Disney.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:53 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:19 pm to
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I'll never understand how this has become as issue
Access to more information nowadays.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

so john stockton never won a title bc he didn't sitout 6-7 games a year? If my memory serves me right, the guys who won titles in his era also didn't sit out.
Righ about now, a lightbulb should be going off in your head...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:22 pm to
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Link?

To what? Use quotes, make it easier to know what you're talking about.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:45 am to
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NBA players are 3.5x more likely to be injured on the 2nd night of a back to back.


I don't know if that's true but assuming that it is... pretty damning from a health and safety perspective. It's very daft to force them to play as well because a season long injury to a star doesn't help the league either.

I know people don't care but in my industry people force unsafe behavior for near term money. It rarely works out well as unsafe practices cause bad results eventually.




I've read the link to this data ,but need more information than that . Non contact or contact injuries? Major or minor injuries?


Kawhi Leonard & Kevin Durant were recently injured on road games after back to backs & are now one of these statistics.

Leonard got an elbow to the head & Durant's own teammate was thrown into his leg.


These injuries had nothing to do with back to back game fatigue & could have happened opening night.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:03 am to
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Different sport but I think eventually a player injured in a Thursday night NFL game is going to sue the league and his team for putting them in an unsafe condition and ruining their career. That un-guaranteed will get paid out quick with the right lawyers. Businesses never win with unsafe work conditions.





NFL claims they have numbers that prove injury rates are actually lower on Thursday night games. There are bad MNF games.



As a person who tries to eat healthy I can assure you I can't base my life on every study about food / drink that comes down.


Red Wine heart health benefits / Wines cancer causing carcinogens.

Spanish study : Fried foods not so bad after all

Sodium unfairly villainzed . " It's time to end the war on salt". "Low sodium diet may be bad for you"



Oral sex / HPV



If one jumped on the first piece of medical data or study or safety stats we'd damn near starve & be afraid leave our homes.

A little cunnilingus won't hurt you. Just use precautions.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12740 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 12:52 pm to
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sugar71


Nice transition from NFL weekday games to going down.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 1:20 pm to
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Nice transition from NFL weekday games to going down.


Just being a little silly about medical studies & safety data.


But my point still stands. Durant's fluke injury & Kawhi Leonard elbow to the head after both playing back to back road games had nothing to do with fatigue. They are now back to back game injury stats.


If you're going to base sitting players on
Data( dating back 3 seasons ) I just need more information. What type of injuries? Are they fatigue related? Contact or Non contact?

Or complete fluke injuries like Leonard & Durant that could happen any time.

Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15776 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:11 pm to
If you aren't aware, you can click on your name when I replied to your post and it's a link to your post
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:27 pm to
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If you aren't aware, you can click on your name when I replied to your post and it's a link to your post

GTFO!! Almost 50k posts and 12.5 years around these parts, and I legit never knew that.


Here you go: LINK

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:30 pm to
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So we have a season that runs roughly 8-9 months but you think rodeo and Mardi Gras is a big problem with schedule.


Wait, WTF is rodeo a problem with the schedule?

It has near zero impact on downtown. They have 6 home games during rodeo season

Edit: apparently San Antonio has a smaller rodeo. Means more home games the rest of the year

Mardi gras is an issue for about a week. Big deal
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Here you go: LINK



And nothing in his data suggest why players are injured after back to backs like KawhinLeonard's elbow to the head or Durant simply having a teammate tossed into his leg. Flukes that happen yet they are now stats on back to back game injuries in the NBA.


Wise people don't take blind data & pretend it's flawless/ The Gospels. This study only goes back to 2012 anyway & who knows what injuries are reported. A lot of bruised Labia injuries going around since 2012 in the new NBA.


Give us a serious study on the type of injuries reported/ seriousness,etc.......& not just compiled data.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110896 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:42 pm to
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And nothing in his data suggest why players are injured after back to backs like KawhinLeonard's elbow to the head or Durant simply having a teammate tossed into his leg. Flukes that happen yet they are now stats on back to back game injuries in the NBA.

You think it's a coincidence that players are 3.5x more likely to be injured on the 2nd night of a road back to back?

quote:

Flukes that happen yet they are now stats on back to back game injuries in the NBA.
So flukes don't happen at home? Flukes statistically happen more to road teams on back to backs, is that your assertion?

quote:

Wise people don't take blind data & pretend it's flawless/ The Gospels. This study only goes back to 2012 anyway & who knows what injuries are reported. A lot of bruised Labia injuries going around since 2012 in the new NBA.

Gonna guess wise people don't think something that's happened for 5 years running is a "fluke." Do you understand how sample sizes work?

quote:

Give us a serious study
I did. You didn't like what you saw, so you said it was a fluke.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Edit: apparently San Antonio has a smaller rodeo. Means more home games the rest of the year



It's smaller than Houston's rodeo, of course, but it basically kicks out the Spurs from the Texas-Sized Phone Booth for the majority of February, and I'm pretty sure is the longest annual road trip in the Association.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7247 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 7:26 pm to
If the Spurs, Rockets or any other team with an extended road trip don't like it, they can build their own arena without public money and make their own scheduling decisions.
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