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re: ESPN has released its financials for the first time ever
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:10 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:10 pm to lsupride87
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Do the “live games only” showng Stephen a smith at 9am? How are those threads getting started?
Even for someone like you who will argue the most inane point for pages on end knows this is a completely stupid "gotcha". You do realize it is possible to be aware of or see sound bytes and video clips without watching or subscribing to its point of origin, right? I have never joined Twitter ot the gram, but friends send me links to those all the time. Stephen A gets quoted by other websites constantly. You don't have to watch his show to be aware of what he said.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:14 pm to Broski
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sportscenter isn't appointment viewing now like it used to be with the highlight show being extremely antiquated.
Has nothing to do w/Sportscenter.
It's b/c of cord cutting.
For some reason everyone on their business end and on WallStreet assumed cable/satellite subscriptions and sub fees were never going to go down.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:20 pm to Dr RC
Espn owns nothing that people want to watch. They lease the rights to broadcast live events that people watch.
When other companies (Amazon, etc) start getting those broadcasting rights then espn will be dead. They’re screwed bc they have to over pay for tv deals bc they have nothing else of value.
When other companies (Amazon, etc) start getting those broadcasting rights then espn will be dead. They’re screwed bc they have to over pay for tv deals bc they have nothing else of value.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:31 pm to RLDSC FAN
$2.9B of profit on $16B of revenue is fantastic profit margin
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:40 pm to Broski
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Everybody will say they are losing money compared to the 90's/2000's because ESPN "went woke" but in reality it's because sportscenter isn't appointment viewing now like it used to be with the highlight show being extremely antiquated.
Anecdotally, my brother, father, and myself have all said we would love to still watch Sportscenter at night like we did for over a decade to catch up on that day's sports, but all of us have stopped because of the quality and content.
The other day I had it on the background while cooking dinner and they talked about the WNBA for 15 minutes, including a couple of panel experts, and then MLB playoffs for 10ish before moving to some football trade rumors or something for 5.
Sorry, but women's basketball is an abomination and no one watches it.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:52 pm to lsupride87
I don’t watch shite on espn except for a college football game. I hate games on espn because they are cookie cutter lazy productions
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
Espn+ is awesome for following the sport of college baseball. Even the tiniest colleges have most of their games televised on there.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:56 pm to Cosmo
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ESPN has been a big loser for Disney with less cable subscribers
And you believed that
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
ESPN is, and always will be, the biggest player in the sports broadcasting market. And hence why it’s the largest single charge for all of our TV, whether cable or streaming.
Just because people are cutting cords and moving to streaming doesn’t mean they don’t have ESPN anymore. We all still have it. A true sports fan wouldn’t be able to survive without ESPN’s family of networks.
The problem lies in Aunt Sue who doesn’t watch sports but currently pays for ESPN on cable. When Aunt Sue switches to non-cable streaming without bundling, ESPN has to make up that money somewhere. Now if Aunt Sue switches to Hulu or YouTubeTV or similar, nothing has changed…she’s STILL paying for ESPN even if she doesn’t watch sports.
The vast majority of people aren't switching away from bundles…. They’re merely switching from cable bundles to streaming bundles, of which ESPN is still a part of, and always will be.
What will happen over time is the price of our “streaming bundles” will go up to offset their losses for people that totally cut the cord and don’t buy and streaming bundles.
Just because people are cutting cords and moving to streaming doesn’t mean they don’t have ESPN anymore. We all still have it. A true sports fan wouldn’t be able to survive without ESPN’s family of networks.
The problem lies in Aunt Sue who doesn’t watch sports but currently pays for ESPN on cable. When Aunt Sue switches to non-cable streaming without bundling, ESPN has to make up that money somewhere. Now if Aunt Sue switches to Hulu or YouTubeTV or similar, nothing has changed…she’s STILL paying for ESPN even if she doesn’t watch sports.
The vast majority of people aren't switching away from bundles…. They’re merely switching from cable bundles to streaming bundles, of which ESPN is still a part of, and always will be.
What will happen over time is the price of our “streaming bundles” will go up to offset their losses for people that totally cut the cord and don’t buy and streaming bundles.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:54 pm to Hiyoka
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$2.9B of profit on $16B of revenue is fantastic profit margin
Do they clarify if that 2.9B is gross or net?
Posted on 10/19/23 at 5:41 pm to EyeOfTheTiger311
This is about nothing but greed….. $2.9 billion and they are firing people because of cost?????
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:14 pm to dukke v
Devils advocate. Almost every employee justifies their salary by generating more revenue.
Or at least if you work for a for profit company anyway. The figure about a 30% drop off in revenue in 2023 sounds too significant to believe at first pass FWIW.
Or at least if you work for a for profit company anyway. The figure about a 30% drop off in revenue in 2023 sounds too significant to believe at first pass FWIW.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:17 pm to Cosmo
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We were told for years ESPN has been a big loser for Disney with less cable subscribers
We were never told that
Anyone who said that was an imbecile. Losing subscribers when they’re insanely profitable means less profits, not negative profits.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
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That's significantly less revenue than Disney's entertainment division
Now that's a shocker. We've all seen the backlash to the insufferable pandering (except to their core audience) awful shite they've put out the last 5 years.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
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That's significantly less revenue than Disney's entertainment division
Now that's a shocker. We've all seen the backlash to the insufferable pandering (except to their core audience) awful shite they've put out the last 5 years. But ESPN has crazily been worse.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:25 pm to Cosmo
quote:Yeah. Something’s up.
They are cooking the books, trying to make ESPN more attractive to a buyer like Amazon
Supposedly they’ve been trying to offload ESPN but they’re profiting $3Billion?
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:44 pm to Cosmo
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They are cooking the books, trying to make ESPN more attractive to a buyer like Amazon
100%
Iger and the clown before him, were pissed at wiritng checks to cover espns debts.
that isn't a cooked book, it's been torched
Posted on 10/19/23 at 6:57 pm to SeeeeK
ESPN slashed payroll because they were making billions.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:26 pm to RLDSC FAN
Lol this release has hurt the soul of some on this forum.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 7:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
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For example, we've gone from 100 million pay-TV households in the United States to about 70 million over the last decade.
Because people don’t want to be lectured about social justice from clowns on a sports network. Show sports and highlights of sports.
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