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re: does the spot foul PI need to be changed? why or why not
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:27 pm to diat150
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:27 pm to diat150
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id rather legit pass int be called. that clearly wasnt pass int. he looked back for the ball and the wr ran thru the db. what else was he supposed to do? get out of the way so he could catch the ball?
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:27 pm to catholictigerfan
It's the worst rule in sports
I could see a special unsportsmanlike rule if the DB just tackles the receiver, but that rarely happens.
Most of the time it's a slightly underthrown ball, the WR stops, the CB bumps him, 50 yards. Complete bullshite.
I could see a special unsportsmanlike rule if the DB just tackles the receiver, but that rarely happens.
Most of the time it's a slightly underthrown ball, the WR stops, the CB bumps him, 50 yards. Complete bullshite.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:28 pm to 1ranter1
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Most of the time it's a slightly underthrown ball, the WR stops, the CB bumps him, 50 yards. Complete bullshite.
Sounds like you have a problem with the way they call PI, not the result of a PI call
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:30 pm to Pedro
Maybe cap the penalty? I don't know. I agree with nfl more though. It's strategy in college if you're beat to tackle.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:42 pm to Pettifogger
quote:You're correct. White very well may have caught the ball if not for DeSean Jackson's impedance once he had jumped into him.
Just because it was a strategic effort to get the PI call doesn't mean it wasn't PI. He very well may have caught it if not for the interference.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:07 pm to catholictigerfan
Hard to say, I've seen in bail out a lot of QBs throwing up prayers when they are in trouble
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:35 am to catholictigerfan
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does the spot foul PI need to be changed? why or why not
I've always thought so
I don't even know what dictates PI anymore. And to potentially penalize a team 50 yards on a judgment call doesn't make much sense to me.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:41 am to catholictigerfan
since it basically comes down to a judgement call I'd prefer it be a flat 15 yards.
A 40 yd penalty is a bit much when the rules are already in place that assist the offense
I'd rather teams have to earn SOME of the yards because it's not reviewable and it can be a missed call at times.
A 40 yd penalty is a bit much when the rules are already in place that assist the offense
I'd rather teams have to earn SOME of the yards because it's not reviewable and it can be a missed call at times.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:42 am to catholictigerfan
I go back and forth but the way the nfl has limited the way defensive backs can play, I'm starting to lean more to the college rule. As others said maybe just cap the penalty. Anything under 30 yards and it's a spot foul, over 30 yards it's a 30 yard penalty
Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:45 am to catholictigerfan
I think there should be 2 different pi calls. One similar to the breakaway rule in the nba would be a spot foul. The other would be 15 yards and first down.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:11 am to SBC
It's a huge assumption that offensive player will catch the ball. I think it should be 15 yard penalty.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:05 am to OblongMidget
I like the rule as is, if it's called correctly.
The touch fouls and inadvertent contact needs to be left alone. If the defense is looking up trying to find the ball and they call that..that's BS
The touch fouls and inadvertent contact needs to be left alone. If the defense is looking up trying to find the ball and they call that..that's BS
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:05 am to tankyank13
15 yards except in the endzone, where it's an automatic TD.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:08 am to catholictigerfan
It's the proper call for that foul. In college, if you are getting beat on a play, just tackle the receiver. Yeah, it's 15 yards, but it would be worse with a spot foul.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:47 am to catholictigerfan
No...the defense should never benefit from a defensive penalty, which is exactly what would happen when the infraction occurs more than 15 yards down the field.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:59 am to brgfather129
Why not, defensive holding is only 5 yards. And it happens 30 yards down the field.
Im back and forth on this. Think id prefer an nba style rule. 15 yards unless very blatant, then spot foul
Im back and forth on this. Think id prefer an nba style rule. 15 yards unless very blatant, then spot foul
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:19 am to josh336
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Why not, defensive holding is only 5 yards. And it happens 30 yards down the field.
The ball hasn't even been thrown yet in that case...it's also an automatic first down, which is significant in its own right.
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15 yards unless very blatant, then spot foul
Doesn't address the subjectivity criticism of the current rule.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:23 am to catholictigerfan
Probably not but the PI call is so judgmental, some teams get absolute gifts from the refs.
And if the DB is facing the receiver and not the ball, all the receiver has to do is climb a little on the DB and it's PI. Even though the DB's back is turned, he's got that receiver covered and shouldn't get a near automatic call just because he didn't turn around.
And if the DB is facing the receiver and not the ball, all the receiver has to do is climb a little on the DB and it's PI. Even though the DB's back is turned, he's got that receiver covered and shouldn't get a near automatic call just because he didn't turn around.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:25 am to brgfather129
It should be half the distance of the interfered with pass play.
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:46 am to catholictigerfan
Either way doesn't really work IMO. If you do it like college DBs will just tackle WRs downfield, and the current system assumes way too much. I don't have a definitive answer. It would probably piss a lot of people off regardless.
I just don't like PI altogether. What was Corey white supposed to do last night? He was behind him, the ball came and Jackson was moving too fast so he slows down, White runs into him and then Jackson pushes onto White and gets the call? How is that shite fair? I UNDERSTAND that within the bounds of the rules, it WAS PI. I just don't understand WHY the rule works that way. The DB has to just let them catch it, pretty much. That or take the penalty.
I just don't like PI altogether. What was Corey white supposed to do last night? He was behind him, the ball came and Jackson was moving too fast so he slows down, White runs into him and then Jackson pushes onto White and gets the call? How is that shite fair? I UNDERSTAND that within the bounds of the rules, it WAS PI. I just don't understand WHY the rule works that way. The DB has to just let them catch it, pretty much. That or take the penalty.
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